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RE: Quote of the Day: Bruce Schneier
From: rms () computerbytesman com
Date: Thu, 17 May 2007 13:28:16 -0400 (EDT)
To understand the 9/11 attacks, one really needs to go back to the original terrorist act commited by people involved in the attacks. This 1993 Village Voice article is one of the better sources that I have seen: http://www.textfiles.com/conspiracy/wtcbomb1.txt 9/11 was not a single crime, but part of a series of terrorist acts against the U.S. which started in 1990. Richard
I would say that this is primarily the source of our problems -- ourforeign policy. Oh, don't tell that to Rudy Giuliani. According to his attack on Ron Paul the other night, our foreign policy had nothing to do with 9/11. An incredible statement. (I'm apolotical here folks, it's just an observation). Alex -----Original Message----- From: funsec-bounces () linuxbox org [mailto:funsec-bounces () linuxbox org] On Behalf Of Fergie Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2007 12:12 PM To: Valdis.Kletnieks () vt edu Cc: funsec () linuxbox org Subject: Re: [funsec] Quote of the Day: Bruce Schneier -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 - -- Valdis.Kletnieks () vt edu wrote:However, out in the political arena, this won't happen as long as The Great Unwashed are voting. You can propose a *lot* of different"fixes"for the "problem" of terrorism, but *none* of them will work until you address the base problem, which in the case of the US is that: a) Fundamentalist Muslims find our lifestyle and culture insulting. Most of them would be quite happy to let us rot in our own country if we let them run their country the way they want to. b) We insist on exporting our lifestyle and culture. Now, given those two setup points, how can you *possibly* expect a goodoutcome from us invading not one, but two sovereign countries and installing a puppet regime that we selected?With regards to ill-will against the U.S., I would say that this is primarily the source of our problems -- our foreign policy. The point here is that knee-jerk reactions don't work, and psychology plays into "Security Theater" in this regard. :-) - - ferg -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGP Desktop 9.6.1 (Build 1012) wj8DBQFGTH7hq1pz9mNUZTMRAkW/AKCkuHsWqgD5ZvZ6zLn0UOTw11fz2wCdHV0V 9NbLXpRZjcL6IfgW95iQtF0= =r4Xl -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- "Fergie", a.k.a. Paul Ferguson Engineering Architecture for the Internet fergdawg(at)netzero.net ferg's tech blog: http://fergdawg.blogspot.com/ _______________________________________________ Fun and Misc security discussion for OT posts. https://linuxbox.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/funsec Note: funsec is a public and open mailing list. .... _______________________________________________ Fun and Misc security discussion for OT posts. https://linuxbox.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/funsec Note: funsec is a public and open mailing list.
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- Re: Quote of the Day: Bruce Schneier Brian Loe (May 17)
- Re: Quote of the Day: Bruce Schneier Rob, grandpa of Ryan, Trevor, Devon & Hannah (May 18)
- RE: Quote of the Day: Bruce Schneier Lawson, Joseph (May 17)
- RE: Quote of the Day: Bruce Schneier Rob, grandpa of Ryan, Trevor, Devon & Hannah (May 18)
- Re: Quote of the Day: Bruce Schneier Nick FitzGerald (May 17)
- Re: Quote of the Day: Bruce Schneier sam stover (May 17)
- Re: Quote of the Day: Bruce Schneier Rob, grandpa of Ryan, Trevor, Devon & Hannah (May 18)
- Re: Quote of the Day: Bruce Schneier Drsolly (May 17)
- RE: Quote of the Day: Bruce Schneier Alex Eckelberry (May 17)
- RE: Quote of the Day: Bruce Schneier rms (May 17)
- Re: Quote of the Day: Bruce Schneier Brian Loe (May 17)
- Re: Quote of the Day: Bruce Schneier sam stover (May 17)
- Re: Quote of the Day: Bruce Schneier Brian Loe (May 17)
- Re: Quote of the Day: Bruce Schneier Valdis . Kletnieks (May 17)
- RE: Quote of the Day: Bruce Schneier Alex Eckelberry (May 17)
- Re: Quote of the Day: Bruce Schneier Nick FitzGerald (May 18)