Re: [privacy] Social Security Card to be National ID?

["Alex Eckelberry" <AlexE () sunbelt-software com>]

Your argument is apparently based on a) there's a need for proper
identification and b) that federal identification papers can't be
forged.  
 
If it's a terrorism argument, it's on weak ground: All of the terrorists
who have struck this country have had valid identification (driver's
licenses, visas, passports).  And it is trivial to forge any public
document (just go around the back alleys of East LA for an education in
forgery).  If you're trying to stop terrorism, identification won't do
it.  Hasn't worked in Israel (which has stringent mandates for
identification) and hasn't worked in any other country.  
 
And if you're trying to stop illegal immigration, then we're back to
square one:  What problem are we actually trying to solve? 
 
Alex
 
 
 


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From: C Q [mailto:kyle.c.quest () gmail com] 
Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2007 10:17 AM
To: Fergie
Cc: privacy () whitestar linuxbox org
Subject: Re: [privacy] Social Security Card to be National ID?


Good point about another document :-)
I think it would make sense to use the passport
as the main federal id document. Unfortunately,
people get only when they have to travel... 
I also think that it doesn't make sense to have 
50 different types of driver's licenses. There
should be one federal driver's license for all
states. Because each state has its own
license its easier to get away with a fake
document... because there's probably 
a couple of people in the entire US who
actually know how those 50 licenses
really look like.


On 5/18/07, Fergie < fergdawg () netzero net <mailto:fergdawg () netzero net>
> wrote:



        Now that's a load of..
        
        Listen, I have "proper documents" to prove I am a citizen of
this 
        country. Period.
        
        I have a a passport, a state driver's license, etc.
        
        I don't need another "unified identity document" to ensure I get
        added to the "master identification database". 
        
        It's a flat-out foolish endeavor, and no good will come of it.
        
        - - ferg
        
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