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Re: [privacy] Social Security Card to be National ID?
From: "Randy Abrams" <abrams () eset com>
Date: Fri, 18 May 2007 17:59:14 -0700
And yet it will not accomplish either. It will add a product line to the black market. Criminals with funding will buy the technology to beat the ID card, and will also sell excellent counterfeits on the black market, making it harder to discover an illegal alien. For the law abiding American it will only facilitate government tracking. It's simply a proposal that no American who values freedom at all could accept as anything less than an assault on the rights and freedoms of the innocent. Cheers, Randy ________________________________ From: C Q [mailto:kyle.c.quest () gmail com] Sent: Friday, May 18, 2007 5:54 PM To: Fergie Cc: privacy () whitestar linuxbox org Subject: Re: [privacy] Social Security Card to be National ID? You are right. I didn't word it correctly. I meant to say that I talked about those two issues. Yes, one of the main benefits behind introducing National ID is to have better tools in preventing what you mentioned (the whole pilot license thing). I agree that this should really be about that and less about controlling illegals. It's just that website with the original article tried to get immigration into the mix. I just had to say something about that... On 5/18/07, Fergie <fergdawg () netzero net> wrote: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 - -- "C Q" <kyle.c.quest () gmail com> wrote: >There are two issues here: >1. National ID and its benefits >2. Illegal aliens and their impact on the lives of the people who live in >the US. > Actually, no. Number 2 should be "Prohibiting terrorists from obtaining pilot's licenses." It is nothing less than disingenuous to color this debate on a National ID card as an illegal immigration control issue. After 11 September 2001, the _entire_ impetus for a National ID card (née Real ID) was to put into a place a mechanism to identify people who weren't supposed to be here -- namely terrorists. - - ferg -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGP Desktop 9.6.1 (Build 1012) wj8DBQFGTkhrq1pz9mNUZTMRAqLTAJ9AraT0TjCuDmw2G0rCxfnrCxndygCfXgMn 9vfBYaUI/sTGG4275HrhoD4= =cKDF -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- "Fergie", a.k.a. Paul Ferguson Engineering Architecture for the Internet fergdawg(at)netzero.net ferg's tech blog: http://fergdawg.blogspot.com/ _______________________________________________ privacy mailing list privacy () whitestar linuxbox org http://www.whitestar.linuxbox.org/mailman/listinfo/privacy
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- Re: [privacy] Social Security Card to be National ID?, (continued)
- Re: [privacy] Social Security Card to be National ID? Brian Loe (May 23)
- Re: [privacy] Social Security Card to be National ID? Brian Loe (May 23)
- Re: [privacy] Social Security Card to be National ID? Valdis . Kletnieks (May 23)
- Re: [privacy] Social Security Card to be National ID? Brian Loe (May 23)
- Re: [privacy] Social Security Card to be National ID? Valdis . Kletnieks (May 23)
- Re: [privacy] Social Security Card to be National ID? Brian Loe (May 23)
- Re: [privacy] Social Security Card to be National ID? Valdis . Kletnieks (May 23)
- Re: [privacy] Social Security Card to be National ID? Brian Loe (May 23)
- Re: [privacy] Social Security Card to be National ID? C Q (May 18)
- Re: [privacy] Social Security Card to be National ID? Randy Abrams (May 18)
- Re: [privacy] Social Security Card to be National ID? C Q (May 18)
- Re: [privacy] Social Security Card to be National ID? Randy Abrams (May 18)
- Re: [privacy] Social Security Card to be National ID? C Q (May 18)
- Re: [privacy] Social Security Card to be National ID? Alex Eckelberry (May 18)
- Re: [privacy] Social Security Card to be National ID? C Q (May 19)
- Re: [privacy] Social Security Card to be National ID? Valdis . Kletnieks (May 19)
- Re: [privacy] Social Security Card to be National ID? Alex Eckelberry (May 19)
- Re: [privacy] Social Security Card to be National ID? C Q (May 19)