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Re: wow - is a "shadow" politician still a politician?
From: "Brian Loe" <knobdy () gmail com>
Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2007 11:06:17 -0500
On 8/29/07, Alex Shipp (elist) <elist-alex () starlabs net> wrote:
Who qualifies for sword ownership?
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knife crime?
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Personally, I doubt that knives will ever be completely banned, even in a nanny state like our own.
I doubt it as well, but regulated to hell is always a possibility. I can't find anything on an actual ban by law on either swords or knives - just a lot of news in regards to the "public outcry" for the need of such things. So long as you're not a victim of a sword/knife attack the argument over whether or not they should be banned is pretty funny. You ban guns (all but remove the possibility to own them if you're anything less than a wealthy, connected "citizen") and then move on to the next thing - as if the first ban had some great, but unmeasurable, effect and so the next one will too. In the end, like I said, you're faced with the fact that humans can be incredibly vicious and cruel and violent and you must now ban hands and feet. The alternative is much harder to accomplish: admit that you were wrong and that so long as there are going to be violent humans walking the earth you might as well have access to the best tools available for defending yourself against those violent persons. Its not a chicken and egg question - violence came LONG before the gun, sword or even knife. The argument that the knife, sword and gun came along as a result of the preexisting violence is not one I'll make - but it has legs. _______________________________________________ Fun and Misc security discussion for OT posts. https://linuxbox.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/funsec Note: funsec is a public and open mailing list.
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- RE: wow - is a "shadow" politician still a politician? Chris Blask (Aug 29)
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- Re: wow - is a "shadow" politician still a politician? Brian Loe (Aug 29)
- Re: wow - is a "shadow" politician still a politician? Alex Shipp (elist) (Aug 29)
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- Re: wow - is a "shadow" politician still a politician? Dennis Henderson (Aug 28)
- Re: wow - is a "shadow" politician still a politician? Drsolly (Aug 28)
- Re: wow - is a "shadow" politician still a politician? Nick FitzGerald (Aug 28)
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