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Re: Disturbed anti-war protester can't find soldier, kills civilian with axe instead
From: rms () computerbytesman com
Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2007 13:39:17 -0400 (EDT)
Crime, in general, most closely correlates with poverty. Another important factor is demographics. Many crimes are committed by males between the ages of 15 and 25. This Web site does a nice job of providing statistics down to the Zip code and/or city levels for demographics, income, crime, etc.: http://www.melissadata.com/lookups/index.htm An interesting comparison to make is Brookline, MA (Zip Code 02446) vs. Mattapan, MA (AKA, "Murderpan", Zip code 02126). These two cities are only a few miles apart. Richard
On 9/12/07, Don Blumenthal <dmblumenthal () gmail com> wrote:On 9/12/07, Brian Loe <knobdy () gmail com> wrote:#1 District of Columbia: 31.2 -- TOTAL FIREARMS BAN, go figure!Selective statistics will support whatever side of the argument somebody wants to take.I know you're right - but I didn't select these statistics to support my argument, the opposing view did. I have no idea what statemaster.com's politics are but based on the about page I'm guessing neutral to liberal. I see no reason to think they're picking their favorite causes (which they'd be easily caught doing) and if they were I don't think I'd be able to use them to support my "cause". I find all of their data suspect, especially since a lot of it is sourced from wikipedia!As for DC, the effectiveness of firearms laws depends in part on accessibility. It would be interesting to see the numbers if Virginia (my old home) didn't have one of the weakest sets of gun controls in the US. I don't know where Maryland ranks.What you don't know could fill volumes - as it could with everyone. But this isn't about what you know and what you don't know, its about what you are willing to accept. Its obvious that you aren't willing to accept any "facts" - regardless of source - unless they support your own opinion. Fortunately, no matter how many of you do this, you can't change the facts. For completeness: #23 Maryland: 11.5 - Shares Mass' gun laws for the most part #25 Virginia: 11.1 - Has shall-issue concealed carry Glad you brought this up, as it furthers my point. Maryland and Virginia both have more lax gun laws than DC, yet according to these statistics suffer less gun crime. This must mean guns do not equal crime, eh? Further, Virginia's gun laws are much more lax than Maryland's restrictive laws yet it has less gun crime as well. Conclusion? As I said in the original post: pro-gun laws have a POSITIVE effect or NO effect on gun crime; anti-gun laws have a NEGATIVE effect or NO effect on gun crime. _______________________________________________ Fun and Misc security discussion for OT posts. https://linuxbox.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/funsec Note: funsec is a public and open mailing list.
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