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Re: old news - but not here
From: Drsolly <drsollyp () drsolly com>
Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2007 22:09:20 +0100 (BST)
On Thu, 13 Sep 2007, Brian Loe wrote:
On 9/12/07, Drsolly <drsollyp () drsolly com> wrote:Iran's "public nudity" laws only restrict women. And "public nudity"Same in America. Men can go bare-chested, women can't.That's a ridiculous comparison. If they banned men from showing their bare chest, who cares? This is the face we're talking about, your ability to be human.
I think your point here is that women's bare chests are naughty, and men's aren't. And you can't see that this is just a cultural idea, not an absolute. And somehow, you've decided that to be human, you must be able to show your face.
Makes sense though, its probably easier to stone a person to death when you've never seen, and can't see, their face.
True. It's also easier to administer a lethal injection if you don't look the guy in the eyes while you do it.
I agree, completely. It should be, as it is here in the states, based on the community's standards. Those standards may come from the individuals morality - which is naturally based on their upbringing and religious beliefs (or spiritual beliefs) - but its the people deciding, not the government.
The problem here, is that if it's the religious beliefs that govern the nakedness standards, then it's a bunch of priests deciding, not the people.
There you go again. You're assuming that democracy and free elections is the best possible system, whereas some folks think that submission to God's Laws is the best possible system.There's no question that democracy is a horrible and corrupt form of government, so no, I'm not assuming that at all. I'm partial to constitutional republics though and have no doubt that it would work no matter where it was tried. The decentralization of the government allows individual communities to govern themselves and the federal government is simply their to protect the interests of the citizens of those various communities. Besides, it seems obvious that what the individual Iranians want is NOT the same as what their dictators want.
You thought that about Iraq, too. _______________________________________________ Fun and Misc security discussion for OT posts. https://linuxbox.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/funsec Note: funsec is a public and open mailing list.
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