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Re: old news - but not here


From: Drsolly <drsollyp () drsolly com>
Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2007 00:52:23 +0100 (BST)

On Thu, 13 Sep 2007, Blue Boar wrote:

Drsolly wrote:
I think your point here is that women's bare chests are naughty, and men's 
aren't. And you can't see that this is just a cultural idea, not an 
absolute.

And somehow, you've decided that to be human, you must be able to show 
your face.

The point is: Is there such a thing as an inalienable human right?
Example: freedom to think what you want. If there is such a right, and
your "culture" doesn't permit you to have that freedom, should anything
be done to rectify that situation, and who should do it?

Or to put it another way, Solly, you don't believe in absolute rights?
 
Hmm, good question. I think that pretty much everyone doesn't believe in 
absolute rights. For example, most people don't believe that there's an 
absolute right to life, and without that right, you're pretty much ... er 
... dead. And that's a relatively easy one to discuss, because most people 
can tell the difference between "alive" and "dead", whereas there's no 
clearcut difference between "free" and "not free".

So I think I'll go against the majority here, and say that, yes, I think
there's maybe an absolute human right to life, but I'll add a bit of a
caveat to that, because not everyone agrees on what constitutes "human" in
this context. And even there, I might be persuaded by the majority opinion 
that there isn't an absolute right to life. It's an interesting question 
to debate!

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