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Re: Louisiana Bankers Set to Go Wireless
From: Valdis.Kletnieks () vt edu
Date: Mon, 09 Jul 2007 10:15:21 -0400
On Sun, 08 Jul 2007 07:48:38 EDT, Larry Seltzer said:
Following up on my own point, Wikipedia says (and we all know everything in Wikipedia has been vetted by the best experts and has to be true) that microwave transmission is point-to-point, so you'd need to stick your tower - I mean Pringles can - in the way. I'm not saying that nosing in on this communication is impossible, but it looks hard to me, and probably expensive.
The trick is to realize that it's not *perfectly* point-to-point - the beam shape isn't a cylinder, but a very narrow cone. The end result is that by the time it's taken a 15 or 20 mile trip tower-to-tower, there's probably some signal down at the base of the tower too. Also, the physical security of those things usually sucks, so if you wanted to climb halfway up the tower with your dish, you probably could. Remember, those relay towers are usually in the middle of nowhere, so it'll take a good 15-20 minutes for cops to show up - plenty of time to sniff lots of interesting data... Also note that a large chunk of the signal goes right *past* the target tower and follows a line-of-sight off into space - the NRO took advantage of that when it would station listening satellites out where the beam ended up. (And yes, few of the beams conveniently intersected a stable geosync orbit, so they'd fly an orbit that intersected as many beams of interest for as long as they could, getting a few minutes of each one.
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