RE: What Happened to The 56 Men Who Signed theDeclarationofIndependence ?

["Wayne J. Hauber" <wjhauber () iastate edu>]

At 03:02 PM 7/9/2007, Stephen P. Villano wrote:
> It may sound cruel, but frankly I would rather that your ancestors DID
> participate. It would give a personal, visceral feeling to the errors long
> past.
> However, remember this: YOU were not responsible. Those in the past were,
> though they felt what the did was the right thing to do, history has proven
> then incorrect.
> As such, one would expect that one would go on with life, try to make things
> a little better for those living in current times and those to come. Pass on
> the painful lesson to one's offspring with the same message and wishes.
>
> On my mother's side of the family, I've learned that she was descended from
> the Reynolds family. While there is a lot of family history to go along with
> this, suffice it to say that her mother's honorable consideration to her
> husband's offspring put her out from that family. Said family was well off
> due, in large part to slave labor on their plantations. I've passed that
> along to my two daughters, along with the lessons hard learned from history
> and my wishes. I'm certain that out of two, at least one, and most likely
> both will pass that hard learned lesson along to my grandchildren (whenever
> they may be born.)

I may know more once my genealogy search gets underway.

After I made my post, I realized that the folks in Swabia had a long 
history of enslaving their neighbors. I suppose that this made the 
enslavement of Jews during WWII (just 20 years after the end of 
Swabia children) something that was culturally acceptable. 
Friedrichshafen had a slave labor camp... 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Friedrichshafen

This is sure a sharp contrast with the enlightened laws in England.

Cheap labor and the profits to be made with cheap labor are a 
constant issue in society. African slaves in the US, Swiss slaves in 
Swabia/Germany, dirt cheap labor in China and Mexico today are just a 
few examples. If money is to be made by abusing someone else, then 
economic pressure will make that abuse commonplace...

Wayne

> Along with the lesson that *ALL* guns are loaded, no matter *HOW* unloaded
> the owner says the weapon is (a lesson drilled into them since they could
> understand my American, error, English...)
> With power comes responsibility. Whether it's the power perceived by
> weaponry or by the more important weapon: Knowledge. One wields one's weapon
> responsibly and only draws it with even more sacred responsibility.
>
> OK, after 26 hours of travel/flight time, it's time to hit the hay. Besides,
> as much as I'll hate myself for scheduling myself for work tomorrow, I have
> work tomorrow and some training...
> My spell checker decided I was incompetent to continue...
>
> WOW! I managed to do that LAST paragraph without a speeeling erorrrer!
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: funsec-bounces () linuxbox org [mailto:funsec-bounces () linuxbox org] On
> Behalf Of Wayne J. Hauber
> Sent: Monday, July 09, 2007 7:30 PM
> To: Brian Loe; Larry Seltzer
> Cc: funsec () linuxbox org; Valdis.Kletnieks () vt edu
> Subject: Re: [funsec] What Happened to The 56 Men Who Signed
> theDeclarationofIndependence ?
>
> At 08:56 AM 7/9/2007, Brian Loe wrote:
> >On 7/9/07, Larry Seltzer <Larry () larryseltzer com> wrote:
> >> > >>It was an act of parliament, long before your civil war.
> >> >
> >> > 1809 I think
> >>
> >>I guess I'm wrong on this. I was positive I had read 1809 at one
> >>point, but a little Googling indicates that the abolition act was
> >>passed in
> >>1833 and took effect in 1834.
> >
> >Wow....less than 30 years earlier than the US - with a LOT more
> >experience in such matters. Guess Solly's adopted home isn't so
> >benevolent after all....
>
> A tidbit I learned during some geneology research...slavery in the Swabian
> region of Germany was formally abolished in 1921. Apparently, children of
> poor Swiss peasants were sold, marched across the Alps to work in Swabia...
> So, I hope that none of my ancestors was involved :-(
>
> See the wikipedia article:
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swabian_children
>
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