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RE: mac trojan in-the-wild
From: "David Harley" <david.a.harley () gmail com>
Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2007 11:21:04 -0000
I've been reading this thread and I don't understand whythere is thisassumption that Mac users are lax or stoopid...
If that assumption exists, perhaps it's influenced by the number of Mac users who believe that all Windoze users are not only stupid, but undeserving of common courtesy.
I have a Mac. I also use Linux, BSD, Windows, and many other OS's.
I own and use Macs, and have spent many years in Mac support (and many other platforms). I'm not a Mac hater, and have no time for the "my OS is better than your OS" idiocy. But assessing IQ by OS -is- stoopid, and it's a form of stupidity I see most often among Mac zealots.
Seriously though, thinking Mac users are generally smarter than everyone else is just wrong. We wouldn't need Mac IT support if the users knew how to admin their stuff.
There have been studies (no, I don't remember the references: it was a while ago) that indicate that there is less of a support load for a Mac-using population, in general -- I suspect that's more to do with the usability/quality of the interface than the intrinsic intellectual superiority of Mac users, but I'm sure the whole of focus-apple would disagree with me. Subjectively, having supported a 50-50 Mac/PC population, I'd say Mac support was generally less time-consuming in that environment. However, I've seen --------enormous------- spikes relating to security issues, most noticeably around the mid-90s when whole Mac-using populations became a prime source of macro virus dissemination. I know that OS X is very different to System 7, but I'm not convinced that the user population (and I mean the whole population, not the relatively knowledgeable people on security-related lists) has become that much more security-savvy. Security-aware, yes: Windows users are also much more aware than they used to be. What confuses the issue for both groups is the amount of conflicting (mis-)information with which they're bombarded. -- David Harley AVIEN Interim Administrator: http://www.avien.org http://www.smallblue-greenworld.co.uk _______________________________________________ Fun and Misc security discussion for OT posts. https://linuxbox.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/funsec Note: funsec is a public and open mailing list.
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- RE: mac trojan in-the-wild, (continued)
- RE: mac trojan in-the-wild Larry Seltzer (Oct 31)
- Re: mac trojan in-the-wild Brian Loe (Oct 31)
- RE: mac trojan in-the-wild Nick FitzGerald (Oct 31)
- Re: mac trojan in-the-wild der Mouse (Oct 31)
- Re: mac trojan in-the-wild Dude VanWinkle (Oct 31)
- Re: mac trojan in-the-wild Dr. Neal Krawetz (Nov 01)
- Re: mac trojan in-the-wild Drsolly (Nov 01)
- RE: mac trojan in-the-wild Alex Eckelberry (Nov 01)
- Re: mac trojan in-the-wild Valdis . Kletnieks (Nov 01)
- Re: mac trojan in-the-wild Dude VanWinkle (Nov 01)
- RE: mac trojan in-the-wild David Harley (Nov 02)
- RE: mac trojan in-the-wild Alex Eckelberry (Nov 02)
- RE: mac trojan in-the-wild David Harley (Nov 02)
- RE: mac trojan in-the-wild Larry Seltzer (Nov 03)
- RE: mac trojan in-the-wild Nick FitzGerald (Nov 03)
- RE: mac trojan in-the-wild Larry Seltzer (Nov 03)
- RE: mac trojan in-the-wild Gadi Evron (Nov 03)
- Re: mac trojan in-the-wild Dude VanWinkle (Nov 05)
- Re: mac trojan in-the-wild Gadi Evron (Nov 05)
- Re: mac trojan in-the-wild Dude VanWinkle (Nov 06)
- RE: mac trojan in-the-wild Gadi Evron (Nov 03)