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Re: ICANN SSAC Report on Fast Flux Hosting and DNS


From: "Dude VanWinkle" <dudevanwinkle () gmail com>
Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2008 22:42:10 -0500

On Jan 30, 2008 5:59 PM,  <Valdis.Kletnieks () vt edu> wrote:

On Wed, 30 Jan 2008 17:18:16 EST, Dude VanWinkle said:
On Jan 30, 2008 4:03 PM, Gadi Evron <ge () linuxbox org> wrote:
I was somewhat involved, so can vouch this is serious work.


I guess it would be a bad idea to block traffic based on the ttl and
expiry of records with less than x seconds then..

Some of us drop the TTL on things a week or so before a hardware move to a new
IP address, so you don't keep a stale cached value around after we do the move..

For some things, we've gone down to 300 or even 60 seconds (having phone calls
for 3600 seconds after you move www.your-domain. tends to make the help desk
people seriously consider doing Bad Things to your car - and if you haven't
outsourced your help desk, they probably know what kind of car you drive. ;)


I drop the ttl/expiry to 5 min right before an IP change. If the ttl
was 2 weeks then i drop the ttl/expiry to 1 day up until 1 day before,
in which i drop it to 5 min, then do the changeover after 24 hours.

Thats why I put the ;-), I would be a good idea if it wasnt infeasible

Also why I said seconds and not minutes (O_o)

-JP\
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