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Re: Rage against spammers and telemarketers
From: der Mouse <mouse () rodents-montreal org>
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 15:55:51 -0400 (EDT)
The planners: Enarques, Oxbridge and Ivy Leaguers are taking over the world, and will give us what they think we need, as opposed to what we want.
"What we want" has not proven to be a very good way to govern. There's even an idiom in English - "bread and circuses" - alluding to a rather famous failure of governing by direct popular mandate. While it is also somewhat apocryphal - it comes from a satirist's work - for it to have survived in live use indicates that its referent is common enough for us to need an idiom for it. "What they think we need" is more likely to be a useful approximation to "what we ened" than "what we want" is, I think; that's the point of education, after all. (And, I suspect, most of the apparent deviations from this are due to "them" giving "us" not "what they think we need" but rather "what they want us to have".) /~\ The ASCII Mouse \ / Ribbon Campaign X Against HTML mouse () rodents-montreal org / \ Email! 7D C8 61 52 5D E7 2D 39 4E F1 31 3E E8 B3 27 4B _______________________________________________ Fun and Misc security discussion for OT posts. https://linuxbox.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/funsec Note: funsec is a public and open mailing list.
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- Re: Rage against spammers and telemarketers Charles Miller (Jul 22)
- Re: Rage against spammers and telemarketers Valdis . Kletnieks (Jul 22)
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