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Re: Rage against spammers and telemarketers
From: "Tomas L. Byrnes" <tomb () byrneit net>
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 17:40:54 -0700
-----Original Message----- From: funsec-bounces () linuxbox org [mailto:funsec-bounces () linuxbox org] On Behalf Of der Mouse Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2009 12:56 PM To: funsec () linuxbox org Subject: Re: [funsec] Rage against spammers and telemarketersThe planners: Enarques, Oxbridge and Ivy Leaguers are taking over the world, and will give us what they think we need, as opposed to what we want."What we want" has not proven to be a very good way to govern. There's even an idiom in English - "bread and circuses" - alluding to a rather famous failure of governing by direct popular mandate. While it is also somewhat apocryphal - it comes from a satirist's work - for it to have survived in live use indicates that its referent is common enough for us to need an idiom for it. "What they think we need" is more likely to be a useful approximation to "what we ened" than "what we want" is, I think; that's the point of education, after all. (And, I suspect, most of the apparent deviations from this are due to "them" giving "us" not "what they think we need" but rather "what they want us to have".)
[TLB:] [TLB:] This post and your one regarding DDT have shown you for what you are: a misanthropic elitist who is trying to have his religion (Gaianism) established by law. It's OK that you don't believe in a Democratic Republic, human rights trumping those of animals, or free markets, and at least you are honest about it. Unfortunately, most of your fellow travelers who run the elite universities and have infiltrated the governments of the west are not so candid. If they were, they would be left ranting on listservs and usenet, as opposed to having armies and police forces at their command. This was the reason Madison insisted on the second amendment. Lest the government be perverted by an unaccountable elite. _______________________________________________ Fun and Misc security discussion for OT posts. https://linuxbox.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/funsec Note: funsec is a public and open mailing list.
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- Rage against spammers and telemarketers Alex Eckelberry (Jul 22)
- Re: Rage against spammers and telemarketers Charles Miller (Jul 22)
- Re: Rage against spammers and telemarketers der Mouse (Jul 22)
- Re: Rage against spammers and telemarketers Valdis . Kletnieks (Jul 22)
- Re: Rage against spammers and telemarketers der Mouse (Jul 22)
- Re: Rage against spammers and telemarketers Tomas L. Byrnes (Jul 22)
- Re: Rage against spammers and telemarketers der Mouse (Jul 22)
- Re: Rage against spammers and telemarketers Tomas L. Byrnes (Jul 22)
- Re: Rage against spammers and telemarketers der Mouse (Jul 23)
- Re: Rage against spammers and telemarketers Tomas L. Byrnes (Jul 23)
- Re: Rage against spammers and telemarketers Dan Kaminsky (Jul 23)
- Re: Rage against spammers and telemarketers Tomas L. Byrnes (Jul 23)
- Re: Rage against spammers and telemarketers Nick FitzGerald (Jul 24)
- Re: Rage against spammers and telemarketers der Mouse (Jul 22)
- Re: Rage against spammers and telemarketers Rob, grandpa of Ryan, Trevor, Devon & Hannah (Jul 23)
- Re: Rage against spammers and telemarketers Charles Miller (Jul 22)
- Re: Rage against spammers and telemarketers Valdis . Kletnieks (Jul 22)
- Re: Rage against spammers and telemarketers Tomas L. Byrnes (Jul 22)
- Re: Rage against spammers and telemarketers John C. A. Bambenek, GCIH, CISSP (Jul 23)
- Re: Rage against spammers and telemarketers Nick FitzGerald (Jul 22)