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Re: Rage against spammers and telemarketers


From: "Tomas L. Byrnes" <tomb () byrneit net>
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 17:40:54 -0700



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From: funsec-bounces () linuxbox org [mailto:funsec-bounces () linuxbox org]
On Behalf Of der Mouse
Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2009 12:56 PM
To: funsec () linuxbox org
Subject: Re: [funsec] Rage against spammers and telemarketers

The planners: Enarques, Oxbridge and Ivy Leaguers are taking over the
world, and will give us what they think we need, as opposed to what
we want.

"What we want" has not proven to be a very good way to govern.  There's
even an idiom in English - "bread and circuses" - alluding to a rather
famous failure of governing by direct popular mandate.  While it is
also somewhat apocryphal - it comes from a satirist's work - for it to
have survived in live use indicates that its referent is common enough
for us to need an idiom for it.

"What they think we need" is more likely to be a useful approximation
to "what we ened" than "what we want" is, I think; that's the point of
education, after all.  (And, I suspect, most of the apparent deviations
from this are due to "them" giving "us" not "what they think we need"
but rather "what they want us to have".)
[TLB:] 
[TLB:] 
This post and your one regarding DDT have shown you for what you are: a
misanthropic elitist who is trying to have his religion (Gaianism)
established by law.

It's OK that you don't believe in a Democratic Republic, human rights
trumping those of animals, or free markets, and at least you are honest
about it. Unfortunately, most of your fellow travelers who run the elite
universities and have infiltrated the governments of the west are not so
candid. If they were, they would be left ranting on listservs and
usenet, as opposed to having armies and police forces at their command.

This was the reason Madison insisted on the second amendment. Lest the
government be perverted by an unaccountable elite.


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