Re: Rage against spammers and telemarketers

[Dan Kaminsky <dan () doxpara com>]

It is very likely there will be no fish in the ocean in our lifetime.  
Literally, all fish, all gone.  Lots of squid, but so long, thanks for  
all the fish.

I think reasonable people can agree we shouldn't be the generation  
that ended fish, even if they are tasty.





On Jul 23, 2009, at 8:40 AM, "Tomas L. Byrnes" <tomb () byrneit net> wrote:

> > -----Original Message-----
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> > On Behalf Of der Mouse
> > Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2009 12:56 PM
> > To: funsec () linuxbox org
> > Subject: Re: [funsec] Rage against spammers and telemarketers
> >
> > > The planners: Enarques, Oxbridge and Ivy Leaguers are taking over  
> > > the
> > > world, and will give us what they think we need, as opposed to what
> > > we want.
> >
> > "What we want" has not proven to be a very good way to govern.   
> > There's
> > even an idiom in English - "bread and circuses" - alluding to a  
> > rather
> > famous failure of governing by direct popular mandate.  While it is
> > also somewhat apocryphal - it comes from a satirist's work - for it  
> > to
> > have survived in live use indicates that its referent is common  
> > enough
> > for us to need an idiom for it.
> >
> > "What they think we need" is more likely to be a useful approximation
> > to "what we ened" than "what we want" is, I think; that's the point  
> > of
> > education, after all.  (And, I suspect, most of the apparent  
> > deviations
> > from this are due to "them" giving "us" not "what they think we need"
> > but rather "what they want us to have".)
> [TLB:]
> [TLB:]
> This post and your one regarding DDT have shown you for what you  
> are: a
> misanthropic elitist who is trying to have his religion (Gaianism)
> established by law.
>
> It's OK that you don't believe in a Democratic Republic, human rights
> trumping those of animals, or free markets, and at least you are  
> honest
> about it. Unfortunately, most of your fellow travelers who run the  
> elite
> universities and have infiltrated the governments of the west are  
> not so
> candid. If they were, they would be left ranting on listservs and
> usenet, as opposed to having armies and police forces at their  
> command.
>
> This was the reason Madison insisted on the second amendment. Lest the
> government be perverted by an unaccountable elite.
>
>
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