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Re: ruling: liability for providers who don't act on clients' illegal activities?
From: Paul Ferguson <fergdawgster () gmail com>
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2009 00:51:14 -0700
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 12:42 AM, Rob Thompson<my.security.lists () gmail com> wrote:
Paul Ferguson wrote:
I suppose you think that's bullshit, too?Yes, I do. It's a hand bag. If someone is at risk of personal injury or death because a hand bag was sold illegally, then I guess I stand corrected. Otherwise, we'll have to agree to disagree. I'm not saying that the ISP (if they _really_ did know - and the proof wasn't given - so I am skeptical) couldn't have done something about it. But to make another one of these half-assed laws, when is enough enough? If the ISP were mine, I would have removed it, on my own accord...but not because of yet another unnecessary law. The right way to do it, don't buy the counterfeit goods. If there is no money in it, no one will do it. There are other, better ways, than this.
Okay, a better question -- how do you feel if it's truly a criminal enterprise (e.g. click fraud, DNS Changer malware, credential stealing malware, credit card theft/trafficking, child porn, et al.)? Are you familiar with Atrivo/Intercage, McColo, and Cernel? Russkrainain criminal activity right here in the Good Ole U.S. of A,? What's you position on that? - - ferg -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGP Desktop 9.5.3 (Build 5003) wj8DBQFKpgzsq1pz9mNUZTMRAsKiAJ9O5fwOr9s/dlw/sQVunJG5J8WE4gCeI0QW nIdKaTjlVbCZAwkOgllzSK0= =c5nN -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- "Fergie", a.k.a. Paul Ferguson Engineering Architecture for the Internet fergdawgster(at)gmail.com ferg's tech blog: http://fergdawg.blogspot.com/ _______________________________________________ Fun and Misc security discussion for OT posts. https://linuxbox.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/funsec Note: funsec is a public and open mailing list.
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