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Re: ruling: liability for providers who don't act on clients' illegal activities?
From: Ned Fleming <ned () kaw us>
Date: Tue, 08 Sep 2009 10:15:34 -0500
On Tue, 08 Sep 2009 03:49:50 -0400, Valdis.Kletnieks () vt edu wrote:
On Mon, 07 Sep 2009 23:14:48 PDT, Rob Thompson said:this as sheer laziness and quite frankly it's rather pathetic. Passing the buck isn't okay. We count on the schools to raise our kids and the ISP to police the interwebs. Bullshit!It may come as a surprise to you - but a large number of people *do* count on the schools to do a large part of the educating and socializing of the young ones. There's an awful amount of stuff that kids learn in school that parents are *not* in a good position to teach - everything from Egyptian history to how to play well with others on a softball team. Might want to pick a better analogy - the days when we could all homeschool our kids are *long* gone, if they ever existed at all...)
I think Rob has a point, though perhaps he didn't express it well. This ISP "knew" that web site X was selling fraudulent (brand?) handbags. I wonder how they knew? Their level of knowledge is perhaps key. But I have a different point. Do we expect ATT/Verizon/etc. to stop phone service for fraudulent sales pitches for these same handbags? Who does one call at ATT to get someone's phone service terminated for such? How would ATT test the veractity of such a claim. Do we want ATT/an ISP to be the Consumer Reports -- with police power -- to censor our networks? -- Ned _______________________________________________ Fun and Misc security discussion for OT posts. https://linuxbox.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/funsec Note: funsec is a public and open mailing list.
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- Re: ruling: liability for providers who don't act on clients' illegal activities?, (continued)
- Re: ruling: liability for providers who don't act on clients' illegal activities? Rob Thompson (Sep 08)
- Re: ruling: liability for providers who don't act on clients' illegal activities? der Mouse (Sep 08)
- Re: ruling: liability for providers who don't act on clients' illegal activities? Rob Thompson (Sep 08)
- Re: ruling: liability for providers who don't act on clients' illegal activities? Nick FitzGerald (Sep 08)
- Re: ruling: liability for providers who don't act on clients' illegal activities? der Mouse (Sep 08)
- Re: ruling: liability for providers who don't act on clients' illegal activities? John Bambenek (Sep 08)
- Re: ruling: liability for providers who don't act on clients' illegal activities? Valdis . Kletnieks (Sep 08)
- Re: ruling: liability for providers who don't act on clients' illegal activities? Nick FitzGerald (Sep 08)
- Re: ruling: liability for providers who don't act on clients' illegal activities? David M Chess (Sep 08)
- Re: ruling: liability for providers who don't act on clients' illegal activities? John Bambenek (Sep 08)
- Re: ruling: liability for providers who don't act on clients' illegal activities? Ned Fleming (Sep 08)
- Re: ruling: liability for providers who don't act on clients' illegal activities? der Mouse (Sep 08)
- Re: ruling: liability for providers who don't act on clients' illegal activities? Paul M Moriarty (Sep 08)
- Re: ruling: liability for providers who don't act on clients' illegal activities? Nick FitzGerald (Sep 08)
- Re: ruling: liability for providers who don't act on clients' illegal activities? der Mouse (Sep 08)
- Re: ruling: liability for providers who don't act on clients' illegal activities? John Bambenek (Sep 08)
- Re: ruling: liability for providers who don't act on clients' illegal activities? nick hatch (Sep 08)