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Re: Actual Climate Change Thread


From: Valdis.Kletnieks () vt edu
Date: Tue, 01 Dec 2009 11:59:18 -0500

On Tue, 01 Dec 2009 16:46:49 +0100, Martin Tomasek said:

Humans can change climate globally, but there is just one way available 
to human now: to blow up the oceans. If you use nuke in the ocean and 
the nuke is big enough, you can dissociate the water the way 
dissociation will keep spreading through all the water it has direct 
contact to. But I'm quite sure after this event there will be noone to 
confirm the climate change.

Are you thinking of Vonnegut's fictional ice-9 here?

None of the 15 known phases of water ice actually behave that way.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ice

So yes, you could convert the entire Pacific to one of those phases - but
only after applying enough nukes to compress each part of the Pacific to
the millions of PSI needed. And as the US found during their nuke tests
at Bikini, trying to do so usually results in most of the water going
straight up, never achieving the compression needed in any ice that isn't
subsequently vabporized.

If you have a pointer to serious research that indicates any phases of
ice act that way, I'd be interested.

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