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Re: Apple has a new toy


From: Joel Esler <eslerj () gmail com>
Date: Tue, 2 Feb 2010 11:24:24 -0500

My point in saying that was that Windows 7, with touch controls is not a
touch OS.  If you've tried to use Windows 7 with your finger, it's
essentially a mouse pointer under your finger.  It's inelegant,
it's imprecise, and hard to use.  Apple took the time to figure out how
people would use an OS that is touch, and they invented the iPhone and the
iPod touch and continually refine it.

Make no bones about it, I'm an Apple guy, and apologist.  I've used Windows
Vista and Windows 7 with touch enabled on a touch device, and it's not even
close to the experience that you get on an iPhone or any of the future Apple
devices that will be touch enabled (not just the iPad, but the Macbooks).

A touch OS is different from a regular OS.  A regular OS you navigate with a
keyboard and mouse, a touch OS you navigate with your finger, (or several
fingers).  You can do things in a touch OS that you can't do in a regular OS
and Microsoft has not figured that out.  yet.  Even if you use natural
devices like ink (a pen based device to navigate your OS), it's still a
"mouse pointer".

Not saying they won't.  But they will.  We are on the edge of OS
development.  We are going away from the "folder" "file icon" type of OS and
computers that you navigate with your keyboard and mouse into a whole new
field of OSes and devices.

On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 11:13 AM, Dan Kaminsky <dan () doxpara com> wrote:

What's the bright line?



On Feb 2, 2010, at 10:30 AM, Joel Esler <eslerj () gmail com> wrote:

But Windows 7, despite what MSFT is trying to do, is not a touch OS.  The
iPhone OS *is* a touch OS.

J

On Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 6:23 PM, Dragos Ruiu < <dr () kyx net>dr () kyx net>wrote:


On 28-Jan-10, at 3:06 PM, Hubbard, Dan wrote:

 The gOOglePAD will have flash support, but it most likely will be a fake
codec.


The Nokia minilaptop, which I just finally saw/held a real version of, is
at about the
same price point as the iPad, runs Win7 and has a 3G connection but has
real kb.
They are in the same weight range and I would argue are competing for the
same
usage/market.

cheers,
--dr



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