Re: Apple has a new toy

[Dan Kaminsky <dan () doxpara com>]

Hahahahahahahaha



On Feb 2, 2010, at 5:56 PM, Joel Esler <eslerj () gmail com> wrote:

> Flash is dead.  HTML5 will render it obsolete. Heck, you can even  
> use youtube via html5 now and it's far superior.
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> www.youtube.com/html5
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> On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 5:45 PM, Alex Eckelberry <AlexE () sunbelt-software com 
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> I agree with your points.
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> I’m not an Apple guy (at all).
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> But I’m dammed impressed with this Ipad.
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> (Yeah, the Flash things sucks, but whatever, it’s what it is.)
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> From: funsec-bounces () linuxbox org [mailto:funsec- 
> bounces () linuxbox org] On Behalf Of Joel Esler
> Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 11:24 AM
> To: Dan Kaminsky
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> Cc: <funsec () linuxbox org>
> Subject: Re: [funsec] Apple has a new toy
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> My point in saying that was that Windows 7, with touch controls is  
> not a touch OS.  If you've tried to use Windows 7 with your finger,  
> it's essentially a mouse pointer under your finger.  It's inelegant,  
> it's imprecise, and hard to use.  Apple took the time to figure out  
> how people would use an OS that is touch, and they invented the  
> iPhone and the iPod touch and continually refine it.
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> Make no bones about it, I'm an Apple guy, and apologist.  I've used  
> Windows Vista and Windows 7 with touch enabled on a touch device,  
> and it's not even close to the experience that you get on an iPhone  
> or any of the future Apple devices that will be touch enabled (not  
> just the iPad, but the Macbooks).
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> A touch OS is different from a regular OS.  A regular OS you  
> navigate with a keyboard and mouse, a touch OS you navigate with  
> your finger, (or several fingers).  You can do things in a touch OS  
> that you can't do in a regular OS and Microsoft has not figured that  
> out.  yet.  Even if you use natural devices like ink (a pen based  
> device to navigate your OS), it's still a "mouse pointer".
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> Not saying they won't.  But they will.  We are on the edge of OS  
> development.  We are going away from the "folder" "file icon" type  
> of OS and computers that you navigate with your keyboard and mouse  
> into a whole new field of OSes and devices.
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> On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 11:13 AM, Dan Kaminsky <dan () doxpara com> wrote:
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> What's the bright line?
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> On Feb 2, 2010, at 10:30 AM, Joel Esler <eslerj () gmail com> wrote:
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> But Windows 7, despite what MSFT is trying to do, is not a touch  
> OS.  The iPhone OS is a touch OS.
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> On Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 6:23 PM, Dragos Ruiu <dr () kyx net> wrote:
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> On 28-Jan-10, at 3:06 PM, Hubbard, Dan wrote:
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> The gOOglePAD will have flash support, but it most likely will be a  
> fake codec.
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> The Nokia minilaptop, which I just finally saw/held a real version  
> of, is at about the
> same price point as the iPad, runs Win7 and has a 3G connection but  
> has real kb.
> They are in the same weight range and I would argue are competing  
> for the same
> usage/market.
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> cheers,
> --dr
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