Re: Sandy Hook

[Kyle Creyts <kyle.creyts () gmail com>]

Deterrent-based controls probably are most effective against people who
aren't extremely deviant/troubled. I believe that most murderers probably
aren't considering the penalty in a rational way when committing the crime.
On Dec 15, 2012 2:56 PM, "Blanchard, Michael (InfoSec)" <
michael.blanchard () emc com> wrote:

> Exactly...   Llike this maggot that shot the school....  If he didn't
> shoot himself, he would have spent the rest of his life in prison....
>   Even though, there isn't a shadow of a doubt he is the killer.
>
>   Cases like that should be automatic death....   Might I even say, death
> by the method the victim's family chooses too!  Even if that is death by
> fireants...  His victims didn't have a choice, why should these maggots
> have any choice in the matter....  Again, for zero doubt, multiple
> witnesses killings....  Others we can try in a court, but then still get
> death if found guilty....
>
>   Hell, bring back public town square hangings...  What more of a
> deterrent there is than that?
>
>  Mike B
>
>   Mike B
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Jeffrey Walton [mailto:noloader () gmail com]
> Sent: Saturday, December 15, 2012 05:39 PM
> To: Blanchard, Michael (InfoSec)
> Cc: funsec () linuxbox org <funsec () linuxbox org>
> Subject: Re: [funsec] Sandy Hook
>
> On Sat, Dec 15, 2012 at 5:30 PM, Blanchard, Michael (InfoSec)
> <michael.blanchard () emc com> wrote:
> > Oh, but I do not disagree that police officers and others similiar
> (doctors
> > too) should undergo pych evals as part of the application process... Not
> > because of the gun they carry, but because of people in general will
> look up
> > to and look to these people for advise andwell being... They can cause
> much
> > more harm with words than guns ever will....
> Absolutely.
>
> I'm not a fan of the Death Penalty, but I could never understand why
> there are not laws that automatically trigger the sentence for public
> officials and servants (similar to what we have with criminals).
> Remember, this is supposed to be a good deterrent. It might of helped
> with, for example, Antoinette Frank.
>
> Jeff
>
> > From: Blanchard, Michael (InfoSec)
> > Sent: Saturday, December 15, 2012 05:27 PM
> > To: 'joel.esler () me com' <joel.esler () me com>; 'noloader () gmail com'
> > <noloader () gmail com>
> > Cc: 'funsec () linuxbox org' <funsec () linuxbox org>
> > Subject: Re: [funsec] Sandy Hook
> >
> > I would feel that doctors, lawyers, train/bus drivers, truck drivers, etc
> > would all have to undergo the same psych eval.... As they ALL cause more
> > deaths per year than gun owners........and we can't forget automobile
> > drivers too!
> >
> > Mike B
> >
> > From: Joel Esler [mailto:joel.esler () me com]
> > Sent: Saturday, December 15, 2012 09:41 AM
> > To: noloader () gmail com <noloader () gmail com>
> > Cc: funsec () linuxbox org <funsec () linuxbox org>
> > Subject: Re: [funsec] Sandy Hook
> >
> > They do. At least all the family members I have that are cops have had
> > to/have to.
> >
> > --
> > Joel Esler
> > Sent from my iPhone 
> >
> > On Dec 14, 2012, at 5:25 PM, Jeffrey Walton <noloader () gmail com> wrote:
> >
> > On Fri, Dec 14, 2012 at 5:08 PM, Dan White <dwhite () olp net> wrote:
> >
> > On 12/14/2012 14:57, Dan White wrote:
> >
> >
> > ....
> >
> >
> > It may be a bit easier for me in Oklahoma to find the crazy people, since
> >
> > a law allowing citizens to openly carry handguns has recently gone into
> >
> > effect. I can say, without hesitation, that the average private citizen
> >
> > openly carrying a firearm is going to be a great deal crazier than the
> >
> > average citizen.
> >
> > Would that include off-duty police officers?
> >
> > I've always argued folks given a gun for a living should have to go
> > through psychological evaluation and maintain good mental health. New
> > Orleans and Baltimore police departments are a case study.
>
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