Re: Sandy Hook

[Kenneth Bechtel <kbechtel () teamanti-virus org>]

Dan White <dwhite () olp net> wrote:

> > On 12/14/2012 14:57, Dan White wrote:
> > > That's not exactly fair. If he didn't have a gun, he would have been
> > > unlikely to kill very many people. If he didn't have a gun, but the
> > > school had an armed security guard, there probably would have been a
> > > much different outcome. Something as simple as locking the front
> door
> > > (like some preschools do) might have helped.
> >
> > Uhh, really?  is 22 children and one adult a close enough number? 
> From
> > a country with VERY strong gun control:
> > http://www.foxnews.com/world/2012/12/14/22-kids-1-adult-injured-in-knife-attack-outside-chinese-school/
>
> That's why I worded my statement the way I did. I hope that you are not
> trying to argue that 0 is a similar number to 26.
>
> If you are attempting to equate these two events, and that the result
> of
> the weapon used was inconsequential, then I strongly disagree with you.

It's disingenuous at best to blame the tool is what I am saying.  Neither guns, knives, sticks or rocks have a self 
will.  They all need a human hand to guide them.  Are those Chinese children any less dead?  The tool IS 
inconsequential, it's the human intent that has consequence.

> > > I would not enroll my children in a school that armed teachers.
> period.
> > > This is not something with an easy fix, or it would have been tried.
> > > Taking away guns from law abiding citizens who just want to defend
> > > themselves ain't gonna happen (in the US).
> > >
> > > My philosophy when it comes to protecting my family: figure out
> where all
> > > the crazy people are, and be somewhere else.
> > Please share your crystal ball or open your eyes and realize evil
> people
> > are every where.
>
> My attempt to seek out where crazy people are is a lot more successful
> than
> attempting to resolve this problem by arming teachers (which was the
> solution presented by another poster). The fact that I've managed to
> keep
> my family safe is proof enough for me, but I understand this is a
> highly
> subjective standard.

Hmm the results of arming teachers has had a proven positive solution, just look at Israel, where the terrorists were 
regularly attacking schools until teachers were armed. 

> It may be a bit easier for me in Oklahoma to find the crazy people,
> since
> a law allowing citizens to openly carry handguns has recently gone into
> effect. I can say, without hesitation, that the average private citizen
> openly carrying a firearm is going to be a great deal crazier than the
> average citizen.

Disagree, I think it's crazy of YOU to not feel your family is worth protecting.  You are relying on those OCers and 
the police to protect you and your family, THEY are taking responsibility for themselves and their family.  So who is 
the crazy one?

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