Re: Explosive breast implants

[Jeffrey Walton <noloader () gmail com>]

On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 9:42 AM, Blanchard, Michael (InfoSec)
<michael.blanchard () emc com> wrote:
> The whole "gas attacks" are not really easy to pull off in the real world...  there are a number of attempts that 
> failed miserably by terrorist groups or individuals in the past....  you just need too much gas for it to be 
> effective...
Cyanide is very easy to mist. Richard "The Iceman" Kuklinski used it
frequently - he acted like he was sneezing while covering his
mouth/nose with a handkerchief. During the "sneeze" he would press the
aerosol spray. His victims would die immediately of an apparent heart
attack.

>  Same with the water supply attack....  you'd need thousands of gallons entering the watersupply to even make people 
> slightly ill....  it just gets diluted way too quickly...
We've seen it happen accidentally. For example, 1993 Milwaukee
Cryptosporidiosis outbreak. 104 accidentally died through contaminated
drinking water.

> Now....  just the threat of it will cause panic... a water supply attack doesn't have to make folks any more than 
> slightly queezy to be effective as a "terror attack"... people LOVE to panic as people are idiots, that is why just 
> an attempt would have an effect even if not one person even gets slightly dizzy after drinking the water....
I think you have to be careful here. I believe the other attacks were
less successful because the proper discipline was not brought to bear
on the problem (for a perverted definition of "problem"). Don't
underestimate the enemy's resolve, and expect them to make the same
mistakes of the past.

All of this is history, so it should be no surprise to anyone when it
happens again. Its going to be worse if a disciplined, concerted
approach is taken.

I think it would be wise to learn to get along rather than trying to
defend against these attacks. You can't protect every place people
gather all the time.

Jeff
> -----Original Message-----
> From: funsec-bounces () linuxbox org [mailto:funsec-bounces () linuxbox org] On Behalf Of Jeffrey Walton
> Sent: Monday, August 19, 2013 6:19 PM
> To: Rob Slade
> Cc: FunSec List
> Subject: Re: [funsec] Explosive breast implants
>
> On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 5:59 PM, Rob, grandpa of Ryan, Trevor, Devon &
> Hannah <rmslade () shaw ca> wrote:
> > http://www.upi.com/Odd_News/Blog/2013/08/16/Explosive-breast-implants-are-
> > now-a-terror-threat/4521376677949
> >
> > Not much detail here, but I'm calling bullshit.  Or, at least, irrelevance.
> Yeah, they are out of control with their fear mongering.
>
> The jihadist already played the airplane card. Why try it again with
> heightened vigilance surrounding air transportation?
>
> I'd expect to see something like cyanide mist deployed around a city
> and in subway stations during rush hour; or an infectious agent added
> to the water supply where a water main enters a city.
>
> You can't defend against all threats in all places, so its probably
> best to repair relations and outlaw religion. Spend the money on
> de-indoctrination so everyone can get along.
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