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Re: Explosive breast implants


From: "Blanchard, Michael (InfoSec)" <michael.blanchard () emc com>
Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2013 14:31:52 +0000

Nick Wrote:
I think you have forgetten about the 1995 Tokyo subway sarin attack...

  htttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarin_gas_attack_on_the_Tokyo_subway

Or do you consider 13 dead, dozens badly injured and many hundreds with 
temporary vision problems a "miserable failure"?

No I did not forget about that attack, I remember it.  Yes, it was tragic for those attacked, please don't think I'm 
heartless...
From the eyes of the attacker, yes it was a miserable failure... Even at that time I was amazed there were only 13 
dead... so I started researching... this type of attack is difficult to pull off, and often backfires on the 
attacker.... there were over a thousand people in that subway and they accomplished only 13 dead?  That's far from 
what the media portrays an attack like this to be.  Would I want to be there during such an attack, hell no! LOL

These guys do not have the *very best* of deployment methods, and that subway station was a damned near text-book, 
ideal location and didn't' accomplish what the attackers envisioned I'm sure...  which is a good thing to those folks 
on that subway platform!

 Mike B


-----Original Message-----
From: funsec-bounces () linuxbox org [mailto:funsec-bounces () linuxbox org] On Behalf Of Nick FitzGerald
Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2013 5:59 PM
To: FunSec List
Subject: Re: [funsec] Explosive breast implants

Blanchard, Michael (InfoSec) wrote:

The whole "gas attacks" are not really easy to pull off in the real
world...  there are a number of attempts that failed miserably by
terrorist groups or individuals in the past....  you just need too
much gas for it to be effective... 

I think you have forgetten about the 1995 Tokyo subway sarin attack...

   htttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarin_gas_attack_on_the_Tokyo_subway

Or do you consider 13 dead, dozens badly injured and many hundreds with 
temporary vision problems a "miserable failure"?

That said, the fact that most other attempted such atatcks have been 
mush less successful does suggest that this is likely to be a 
problematic "attack" model.

Other agents with longer-term effect but that require incredibly tiny 
amounts of agent per victim to be successful (ricin; anthrax maybe?) 
might be better choices but have historically shown themselves to be 
extremely difficult to suitably aerosolize for the kind of distribution 
such an attack would require, with probably only the very best military 
bio-weapons labs having shown the capability of coming close.



Regards,

Nick FitzGerald


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