Re: Explosive breast implants

[Stephanie Daugherty <sdaugherty () gmail com>]

At this point, far less deadly but far more effective would be campaigns to
exploit all that extra security at airports, which could be very creative
and continued over a long period of time -  clogging up the security
process to where air travel grinds to a halt.

I bet you could shut down a major airport for hours with two dozen well
aimed nerf footballs, Nothing evil about them, except the route they take
over, under, and past security checkpoints - the ensuing "damage control"
of having to search the secure area would be the real damage.



On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 6:20 PM, Jeffrey Walton <noloader () gmail com> wrote:

> On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 9:42 AM, Blanchard, Michael (InfoSec)
> <michael.blanchard () emc com> wrote:
> > The whole "gas attacks" are not really easy to pull off in the real
> world...  there are a number of attempts that failed miserably by terrorist
> groups or individuals in the past....  you just need too much gas for it to
> be effective...
> >
> Cyanide is very easy to mist. Richard "The Iceman" Kuklinski used it
> frequently - he acted like he was sneezing while covering his
> mouth/nose with a handkerchief. During the "sneeze" he would press the
> aerosol spray. His victims would die immediately of an apparent heart
> attack.
>
> >  Same with the water supply attack....  you'd need thousands of gallons
> entering the watersupply to even make people slightly ill....  it just gets
> diluted way too quickly...
> >
> We've seen it happen accidentally. For example, 1993 Milwaukee
> Cryptosporidiosis outbreak. 104 accidentally died through contaminated
> drinking water.
>
> > Now....  just the threat of it will cause panic... a water supply attack
> doesn't have to make folks any more than slightly queezy to be effective as
> a "terror attack"... people LOVE to panic as people are idiots, that is why
> just an attempt would have an effect even if not one person even gets
> slightly dizzy after drinking the water....
> >
> I think you have to be careful here. I believe the other attacks were
> less successful because the proper discipline was not brought to bear
> on the problem (for a perverted definition of "problem"). Don't
> underestimate the enemy's resolve, and expect them to make the same
> mistakes of the past.
>
> All of this is history, so it should be no surprise to anyone when it
> happens again. Its going to be worse if a disciplined, concerted
> approach is taken.
>
> I think it would be wise to learn to get along rather than trying to
> defend against these attacks. You can't protect every place people
> gather all the time.
>
> Jeff
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: funsec-bounces () linuxbox org [mailto:funsec-bounces () linuxbox org]
> On Behalf Of Jeffrey Walton
> > Sent: Monday, August 19, 2013 6:19 PM
> > To: Rob Slade
> > Cc: FunSec List
> > Subject: Re: [funsec] Explosive breast implants
> >
> > On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 5:59 PM, Rob, grandpa of Ryan, Trevor, Devon &
> > Hannah <rmslade () shaw ca> wrote:
> > >
> http://www.upi.com/Odd_News/Blog/2013/08/16/Explosive-breast-implants-are-
> > > now-a-terror-threat/4521376677949
> > >
> > > Not much detail here, but I'm calling bullshit.  Or, at least,
> irrelevance.
> > Yeah, they are out of control with their fear mongering.
> >
> > The jihadist already played the airplane card. Why try it again with
> > heightened vigilance surrounding air transportation?
> >
> > I'd expect to see something like cyanide mist deployed around a city
> > and in subway stations during rush hour; or an infectious agent added
> > to the water supply where a water main enters a city.
> >
> > You can't defend against all threats in all places, so its probably
> > best to repair relations and outlaw religion. Spend the money on
> > de-indoctrination so everyone can get along.
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