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Re: COVID-19 vs. our Networks


From: Tom Beecher <beecher () beecher cc>
Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2020 13:31:17 -0400

I don’t agree with your reading of this that applies downstream congestion
issues to your TSP codes circuit. But I will not continue to debate the
point.

On Thu, Mar 19, 2020 at 13:22 Mike Bolitho <mikebolitho () gmail com> wrote:

*Restoration:*

*The repair or returning to service of one or more telecommunications
services that have experienced a service outage or are unusable for any
reason, including a damaged or impaired telecommunications facility. Such
repair or returning to service may be done by patching, rerouting,
substitution of component parts or pathways, and other means, as determined
necessary by a service vendor.*


https://www.cisa.gov/sites/default/files/publications/OEC%20TSP%20Operations%20Guide%20Final%2012062016_FINAL%20508C.pdf


My understanding, and what we did while I worked for a Tier I ISP, was
that even for degraded circuits we had to do everything in our power to
restore to full operations. If capacity is an issue and causes TSP coded
DIA circuits to be unusable then that falls under the "any reason" clause
of that line.


- Mike Bolitho


On Thu, Mar 19, 2020 at 10:05 AM Tom Beecher <beecher () beecher cc> wrote:

Yes, you have said that. I still believe you are incorrect.

TSP allows priority for turnup of new capacity , and priority restoration
for capacity. There is nothing in the regulations that I can find that
would allow TSP to be used to rectify general internet congestion issues.

On Thu, Mar 19, 2020 at 12:53 PM Mike Bolitho <mikebolitho () gmail com>
wrote:

I've said it over and over again, we have TSP and it could easily be
used to enforce priority to emergency preparedness customers. It's built
into the language.

- Mike Bolitho


On Thu, Mar 19, 2020 at 9:52 AM Tom Beecher <beecher () beecher cc> wrote:

EU regulations with such things are vastly different than in the US.

On Thu, Mar 19, 2020 at 12:08 PM Mike Bolitho <mikebolitho () gmail com>
wrote:

I was getting blasted earlier for suggesting streaming services and
gaming DLCs could likely be slowed by government intervention. EU is
currently working with Netflix to do just that. It's currently a strong
suggestion and even a plead but I maintain that we're going to see this
pushed harder in the coming weeks.

In a statement on Thursday, Breton said that given the unprecedented
situation, streaming platforms, telecom operators and users "all have a
joint responsibility to take steps to ensure the smooth functioning of the
internet during the battle against the virus propagation."


https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/19/tech/netflix-internet-overload-eu/index.html


- Mike Bolitho


On Thu, Mar 19, 2020 at 5:03 AM Mark Tinka <mark.tinka () seacom mu>
wrote:



On 19/Mar/20 04:35, Scott Weeks wrote:


We do about 70-80Gbps at peak over the external
BGP links we have and I am not seeing a large
increase nor am I seeing it spread out over time.
We're an eyeball network plus some really large
customers.

Anyone else seeing something different?  We're
now into the 3rd day, so I thought I'd see
something change by now.

South Africa and a few other African countries put countries on
semi-lockdown from about Sunday.

We've seen a 15% increase in peak traffic on our network since the
17th.

Mark.



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