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Re: COVID-19 vs. peering wars


From: Matthew Petach <mpetach () netflight com>
Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2020 12:31:21 -0700

I'm curious;
would people say that fixing peering inefficiencies could have
a bigger impact on service performance than asking that
Netflix, Amazon Prime, Youtube, Hulu, and other video
streaming services cut their bit rates down?

https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-51968302
https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2020/03/netflix-and-youtube-cut-streaming-quality-in-europe-to-handle-pandemic/

It seems that perhaps the fingers, and the regulatory
hammer, are being pointed in the wrong direction at
the moment.  ^_^;

Matt
staying safely under the saran-wrap blanket for the next few weeks




On Fri, Mar 20, 2020 at 9:31 AM Adam Thompson <athompson () merlin mb ca>
wrote:

Every large ISP does this (or rather, doesn't) at every IX in Canada.
Bell isn't unique by any stretch.

It's not in their economic interest to peer at a local IX, because from
their perspective, the IX takes away business (Managed L2 point-to-point
circuits, at the very least) from them.

Don't expect the dominant wireline ISP(s) in any region to join local IXes
anytime soon, sadly, no matter how much it would benefit their customers.
After all, the customer is always free to purchase service to the IX and
join the IX, right???  *grumble*

In my local case, if BellMTS joined MBIX, un-cached DNS resolution times
could potentially drop by 15msec.  That's HUGE.  But the end-user
experience is not their primary goal.  Their primary goal is profit, as
always.

-Adam Thompson
 Founding member, MBIX (once upon a time)

Adam Thompson
Consultant, Infrastructure Services
MERLIN
100 - 135 Innovation Drive
Winnipeg, MB, R3T 6A8
(204) 977-6824 or 1-800-430-6404 (MB only)
athompson () merlin mb ca
www.merlin.mb.ca

-----Original Message-----
From: NANOG <nanog-bounces () nanog org> On Behalf Of Sadiq Saif
Sent: Friday, March 20, 2020 9:38 AM
To: nanog () nanog org
Subject: Re: COVID-19 vs. peering wars

On Fri, 20 Mar 2020, at 10:31, Steve Mikulasik via NANOG wrote:

In Canada the CRTC really needs to get on Canadian ISPs about peering
very liberally at IXs in each province. I know of one major
institution right now that would have a major work from home issue
resolved if one big ISP would peer with one big tier 1 in the IX they
are both located at in the same province. Instead traffic needs to
flow across the country or to the USA to get back to the same city.

**cough** Bell Canada **cough**.

--
  Sadiq Saif
  https://sadiqsaif.com/



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