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RE: Database design.


From: Drsolly <drsollyp () drsolly com>
Date: Wed, 7 Jun 2006 15:27:32 +0100 (BST)

On Wed, 7 Jun 2006 Blanchard_Michael () emc com wrote:

"regular" consumer drives are certainly not reliable enough for
something of this scope.  Drive array manufacturers (not just us, I'm
sure others as well) go through great lengths to ensure that the systems
will withstand just about anything with a guaranteed zero loss of data.

 At the risk of sounding like I'm praising the almighty EMC Symmetrix:  
Heck, take a peek on www.emc.com, I'm sure there is a page that explains
our testing of the symmetrix systems (this is our flagship product).  
They can withstand like a 8.5 earthquake (and have in real life too),
temps way down below freezing for weeks on end, temps way above 100deg F
for weeks on end.  They really are built like tanks, down to the last
component....

Great. But we don't get earthquakes in England, it never goes above 100F, 
and it only goes below freezing on the worst winter nights.

  I'm positive that NetApp, IBM, etc all put their storage systems
through similar testing, although I don't think they are all as thorough
with their testing.


  There isn't a consumer IDE or SATA drive that will withstand that kind
of torture and not skip a beat.  The drive systems is certainly not the
place to "penney-pinch" on a project as huge as the one the UK is going
to undertake.

The drive systems are a very good place to economise by using the two 
ideas of redundancy and inexpensive drives. 

My point is that huge ultra-reliable do-it-all systems are great, but 
currently we're laying off nurses and can't pay our doctors. Maybe what we 
need is a cheaper system, and more nurses.


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