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Re: Consumer Reports Slammed for Creating 'Test' Viruses
From: Blue Boar <BlueBoar () thievco com>
Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2006 13:45:59 -0700
Drsolly wrote:
No, it's one of the worst ways, about on a par with throwing dice.
If I were to write a new virus, I'm pretty confident that I could accurately predict the results of throwing it at 30 virus scanners.
For the occasion claim that some AV package can detect new unknown viruses, or that some hueristic package can do so, creating a new virus in lab conditions is certainly a valid test. It's a crap shoot because that's how (in)effective AV is at spotting new things, not because the test is invalid.
I agree - the only test method that comes anywhere near being able to work, is to run a three-month-old product against the current crop of viruses (and even that isn't as easy as it sounds).
OK, so if I write a virus today and test today's signature files... it's not a valid test. However, if I save today's signature files, let *other people* volunteer to write a bunch of viruses, and then test those, it is.
You're not arguing against the validity of the test method, you're saying that you don't want additional viruses being created, because you don't like it.
I'm not saying you have to like it. BB _______________________________________________ Fun and Misc security discussion for OT posts. https://linuxbox.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/funsec Note: funsec is a public and open mailing list.
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- Re: Consumer Reports Slammed for Creating 'Test' Viruses Peter Kosinar (Aug 17)
- RE: Consumer Reports Slammed for Creating 'Test' Viruses Larry Seltzer (Aug 17)
- RE: Consumer Reports Slammed for Creating 'Test' Viruses Blanchard_Michael (Aug 17)
- RE: Consumer Reports Slammed for Creating 'Test' Viruses Larry Seltzer (Aug 17)
- RE: Consumer Reports Slammed for Creating 'Test' Viruses Michal Zalewski (Aug 17)
- Re: Consumer Reports Slammed for Creating 'Test' Viruses Blue Boar (Aug 17)
- Re: Consumer Reports Slammed for Creating 'Test' Viruses Axel Pettinger (Aug 17)
- Re: Consumer Reports Slammed for Creating 'Test' Viruses Blue Boar (Aug 17)
- Re: Consumer Reports Slammed for Creating 'Test' Viruses Dude VanWinkle (Aug 17)
- Re: Consumer Reports Slammed for Creating 'Test' Viruses Drsolly (Aug 17)
- Re: Consumer Reports Slammed for Creating 'Test' Viruses Blue Boar (Aug 17)
- Re: Consumer Reports Slammed for Creating 'Test' Viruses Dude VanWinkle (Aug 17)
- Re: Consumer Reports Slammed for Creating 'Test' Viruses Drsolly (Aug 17)
- Re: Consumer Reports Slammed for Creating 'Test' Viruses Drsolly (Aug 17)
- Re: Consumer Reports Slammed for Creating 'Test' Viruses Blue Boar (Aug 17)
- Re: Consumer Reports Slammed for Creating 'Test' Viruses Valdis . Kletnieks (Aug 17)
- RE: Consumer Reports Slammed for Creating 'Test' Viruses David Harley (Aug 17)
- Re: Consumer Reports Slammed for Creating 'Test' Viruses Blue Boar (Aug 19)