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RE: UK expands surveillance of its citizens


From: Drsolly <drsollyp () drsolly com>
Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2007 02:35:30 +0100 (BST)

On Tue, 19 Jun 2007, David Harley wrote:

So really, the problem is that the local government has made 
it so difficult to remove the trash that people attempt to 
bypass the law. 

In that case, it would seem that, instead of spending vast 
amounts of money on cameras and enforcement, simply make it 
easier to throw out the trash. 

It's not that easy. We are a small and over-populated island, and we're

Get out of London and into the country, where you can walk for hours and 
not see anyone. We aren't overpopulated.

running out of space on landfill sites. (Though compared with Japan, our
problem is probably unimpressive.) Local government has to meet national
targets, irrespective of resources. Not unlike education, the national
health service and so on. Making it more difficult to get rid of garbage is
probably not an altogether conscious intention, but transfers the problem
from the authority to the householder. Somewhat similarly, making it too
much trouble to report email scams and spam relieves the pressure on
under-resourced government agencies and law enforcement.

It's great, and, of course, there are no problems with "fly tipping".

But the biggest problem with fly tipping isn't householders with more black
bags than they can fit into a wheelie bin. It's commercial waste from people
who don't want to pay the cost of legal, licensed tipping.



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