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Re: TrendMicro goes Douchebag
From: Nick FitzGerald <nick () virus-l demon co uk>
Date: Fri, 01 Feb 2008 10:49:49 +1300
Larry Seltzer wrote:
I'm not defending the patent and I don't remember everything from when they talked about it to me, but I do believe it was important to the patent that it operated as a proxy. Perhaps MIMESweeper didn't work as a proxy?
Based on Trend's subsequent actions regarding enforcement, it seems that "being a dedicated scanning device" is the key thing, and _that_ is why the patent fails the "obviousness" test for any vaguely clueful techie... In short, Trend is effectively admitting that it did not invent the idea of passthrough Email virus scanning, merely the (obvious) procedural "improvement" of off-loading that overhead workload to a dedicated scanning machine via (the equally obvious, particularly for a protocol designed from the ground up for relaying and proxying) a proxy. And _that's_ why -- sorry ferg -- many folk quite rightly IMNSHO think of Trend in terms such as "douchebag" for trying to enforce this clearly bogus patent. (If it had simply used the patent as a defensive patent, parrying other vendor's patent infringement claims with this one it would be a different matter -- still a bogus patent, but "somewhat reasonably" used only in its own defense...) Regards, Nick FitzGerald _______________________________________________ Fun and Misc security discussion for OT posts. https://linuxbox.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/funsec Note: funsec is a public and open mailing list.
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- Re: TrendMicro goes Douchebag, (continued)
- Re: TrendMicro goes Douchebag Larry Seltzer (Jan 30)
- Re: TrendMicro goes Douchebag Nick FitzGerald (Jan 30)
- Re: TrendMicro goes Douchebag security curmudgeon (Jan 30)
- Re: TrendMicro goes ... Rob, grandpa of Ryan, Trevor, Devon & Hannah (Jan 30)
- Re: TrendMicro goes ... security curmudgeon (Jan 30)
- Re: Symantec goes Cannibalistic Rob, grandpa of Ryan, Trevor, Devon & Hannah (Jan 30)
- Re: Symantec goes Cannibalistic Nick FitzGerald (Jan 31)
- Re: TrendMicro goes Douchebag Larry Seltzer (Jan 31)
- Re: TrendMicro goes Douchebag Dennis Henderson (Jan 31)
- Re: TrendMicro goes Douchebag Larry Seltzer (Jan 31)
- Re: TrendMicro goes Douchebag Nick FitzGerald (Jan 31)
- Re: TrendMicro goes Douchebag Paul Vixie (Feb 02)
- Re: TrendMicro goes Douchebag Dude VanWinkle (Jan 30)
- Re: TrendMicro goes Douchebag Drsolly (Jan 30)
- Re: TrendMicro goes Douchebag Larry Seltzer (Jan 30)
- Re: TrendMicro goes Douchebag Nick FitzGerald (Jan 30)
- Re: TrendMicro goes Douchebag Dude VanWinkle (Jan 30)
- Re: TrendMicro goes Douchebag Dude VanWinkle (Jan 30)
- Re: TrendMicro goes Douchebag Paul Vixie (Feb 02)