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Re: TrendMicro goes Douchebag
From: Nick FitzGerald <nick () virus-l demon co uk>
Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2008 17:36:18 +1300
Larry Seltzer wrote:
Trend Micro approached me maybe a couple of years ago, after they signed up Symantec and McAfee to licenses, to say that they would be enforcing the patent. They've already gone after other vendors (http://www.eweek.com/c/a/Security/ITC-Rules-Against-Fortinet-in-Patent- Dispute/)
Has Trend ever tried to enforce this patent against (originally UK company?) Integralis (or various of the other companies that have subsequently owned that IP)?? As I recall, Integralis was marketing MIMEsweeper "some reasonable amount of time before" Trend filed for the 600 patent and MIMEsweeper would appear to be an obvious case of prior art, being the first (??) at least first successful?) commercial implementation of Email gateway content scanning, _including_ the ability to pass decoded Email content out to various (arbitrary?) third-party/client-supplied processes (including known-virus-scanning). (Again, AFAIR, MIMEsweeper was originally mainly aimed at Of course, Integralis may have decided it was easier to pay some (possibly nominal) licensing fee to Trend rather than battle it out through the courts, trying to overturn the grossly obvious Trend patent claims with their own prior-art evidence. Or Trend may have simply decided to not take the risk and has left Integralis (etc, etc) alone. Are any of the (former) Integralis folk still around reading these lists? Are any of the journos trying to get answers to these questions? USPTO 5,623,600: http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph- Parser?Sect1=PTO2&Sect2=HITOFF&p=1&u=%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fsearch- bool.html&r=1&f=G&l=50&co1=AND&d=PTXT&s1=5,623,600.PN.&OS=PN/5,623,600&R S=PN/5,623,600 was originally filed 26 September 1995 and MIMEsweeper was definitely being publicly talked about in terms of using it as an Email gateway virus scanning service earler than that, as this archived Usenet post from 3 July 1995 clearly shows: http://groups.google.com/group/comp.security.misc/browse_thread/thread/7 2827a6c05f2853d/d74f6ab12ce7251e?lnk=st&q=#d74f6ab12ce7251e Regards, Nick FitzGerald _______________________________________________ Fun and Misc security discussion for OT posts. https://linuxbox.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/funsec Note: funsec is a public and open mailing list.
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