Re: Mutually Assured DDoS

["Tomas L. Byrnes" <tomb () byrneit net>]

Defense, on the modern mechanized air-land battlefield, is more about
channeling attackers, or choosing the ground on which engagements take
place, than the static "defense" of the Napoleonic and pre-blitzkrieg
wars.

That very definitely DOES have a parallel in cyberdefense.

And I disagree that offense, especially as a counterpunch, is something
that is off-limit to respectable actors. If I can detect and own a
botnet that is attacking me, and reverse it on its herders, I think that
is a highly respectable thing to do.



> -----Original Message-----
> From: funsec-bounces () linuxbox org [mailto:funsec-bounces () linuxbox org]
> On Behalf Of Larry Seltzer
> Sent: Sunday, May 03, 2009 6:32 AM
> To: Gadi Evron; Gary Warner
> Cc: funsec () linuxbox org
> Subject: Re: [funsec] Mutually Assured DDoS
>
> > > To be clear, I don't hold the view that Clausewitz is right when
> looking at the Internet...
>
> I guess I'm with you on this. But no matter which side he took I don't
> see why principles like that should be so universal that they should
> apply to network attacks as well as conventional human warfare. My
> impression from what I've seen of the private wars we've had on the
> Internet so far is that defense is possible, but expensive and
> disadvantaged. The battleground was designed (unintentionally) for
> offense.
>
> On the other hand, offense as a defensive counterpart, what Dempsey
> would call a counterpunch, is not available to respectable actors, so
> we've never really seen it tested in earnest.
>
> Larry Seltzer
> Contributing Editor, PC Magazine
> larry_seltzer () ziffdavis com
> http://blogs.pcmag.com/securitywatch/
>
>
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