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Re: Mutually Assured DDoS


From: der Mouse <mouse () rodents-montreal org>
Date: Sun, 3 May 2009 20:58:54 -0400 (EDT)

If I can detect and own a botnet that is attacking me, and reverse
it on its herders, I think that is a highly respectable thing to
do.
[...] machines belonging to arm's-length third parties, and you have
no more right to abuse them for your ends than those abusing them to
attack you do.
You've got a point, if the botnet is truly third party, but if it is
my honeypots, or those of subscribers who are managed by my service
and give consent?

Then that objection goes away, yes, and it's just a question of to what
extent your being attacked gives you a right to interfere with the
operation of someone else's machines.  Personally, I find this
questionable, even if you do correctly target your attacker's machines
(something you will sooner or later make a mistake at, if you do this
more than a few times).  I am not someone who believes two wrongs can
make a right.

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