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Re: Mutually Assured DDoS
From: der Mouse <mouse () rodents-montreal org>
Date: Sun, 3 May 2009 20:58:54 -0400 (EDT)
If I can detect and own a botnet that is attacking me, and reverse it on its herders, I think that is a highly respectable thing to do.[...] machines belonging to arm's-length third parties, and you have no more right to abuse them for your ends than those abusing them to attack you do.You've got a point, if the botnet is truly third party, but if it is my honeypots, or those of subscribers who are managed by my service and give consent?
Then that objection goes away, yes, and it's just a question of to what extent your being attacked gives you a right to interfere with the operation of someone else's machines. Personally, I find this questionable, even if you do correctly target your attacker's machines (something you will sooner or later make a mistake at, if you do this more than a few times). I am not someone who believes two wrongs can make a right. /~\ The ASCII Mouse \ / Ribbon Campaign X Against HTML mouse () rodents-montreal org / \ Email! 7D C8 61 52 5D E7 2D 39 4E F1 31 3E E8 B3 27 4B _______________________________________________ Fun and Misc security discussion for OT posts. https://linuxbox.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/funsec Note: funsec is a public and open mailing list.
Current thread:
- Re: Mutually Assured DDoS, (continued)
- Re: Mutually Assured DDoS Tomas L. Byrnes (May 02)
- Re: Mutually Assured DDoS Gadi Evron (May 02)
- Re: Mutually Assured DDoS Tomas L. Byrnes (May 02)
- Re: Mutually Assured DDoS Valdis . Kletnieks (May 02)
- Re: Mutually Assured DDoS Gary Warner (May 03)
- Re: Mutually Assured DDoS Gadi Evron (May 03)
- Re: Mutually Assured DDoS Larry Seltzer (May 03)
- Re: Mutually Assured DDoS Tomas L. Byrnes (May 03)
- Re: Mutually Assured DDoS der Mouse (May 03)
- Re: Mutually Assured DDoS Tomas L. Byrnes (May 03)
- Re: Mutually Assured DDoS der Mouse (May 03)
- Re: Mutually Assured DDoS Rich Kulawiec (May 04)
- Re: Mutually Assured DDoS Gadi Evron (May 03)
- Re: Mutually Assured DDoS Barry Raveendran Greene (May 02)
- Re: Mutually Assured DDoS Rich Kulawiec (May 02)
- Re: Mutually Assured DDoS nameless (May 02)
- Re: Mutually Assured DDoS Alex Lanstein (May 01)
- Re: Mutually Assured DDoS Paul Ferguson (May 01)
- Re: Mutually Assured DDoS Paul M. Moriarty (May 01)