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Re: FCC v Mom
From: Dude VanWinkle <dudevanwinkle () gmail com>
Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2005 21:19:33 -0700
Larry Sed -------------------- Silly me, I would think that the ability to have 911 service on your phone would be a good thing ------------------- Are you a Fed :-) I woulndt mind being able to call 911 (although I havent had a reason to in 28 years), but the Fact is: They dont have to be able to trace me in order for me to have access to 911 or any number. I could call them before GPS, I can still call without. The Situation may arise where I am bleeding to death and cant press a button, but how would they know I was in trouble to come "rescue me"? Maybe when someone knoticed I was missing, but I would be several days dead by then. On 11/11/05, Paul Vixie <paul () vix com> wrote:
# E911 legislation requires that ALL US cell network operators implement # GPS tracking by a particular date, which I think has already kicked in. fortunately there is no requirement that we keep our cell phones turned on. therefore if one carries a 1-way (non-2way) pager for inbound calls, and a cell phone that's usually turned off, one can retain privacy of movement. this loophole will eventually close, of course. but by then ubiquitous 802.11 will have arrived, and my nokia-770 will replace my cell phone. i hate cell phones, privacy or not, so that day cannot come soon enough!
So there is not remote on function in all phones yet? I know that Treo's and other smart phones never truly shut off. Correct me if I am wrong, but even on older phones the battery dying doesnt even cut off all electricity to the phone, and on some you can even hit in a code to recharge the battery (from an email sent to either this list or Ring-Of-Fire had instructions but I cant remember my yahoo password and am too lazy to search the arcihives [if any] :-) -JP "Can you turn off the guys on the other end of the wire?" -JP plz plzplzplz plz plz PityCampaign to plz plz change the Default plz Reply-To for FunSec plz plz plz plz _______________________________________________ Fun and Misc security discussion for OT posts. https://linuxbox.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/funsec Note: funsec is a public and open mailing list.
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- Re: FCC v Mom, (continued)
- Re: FCC v Mom Blue Boar (Nov 11)
- Re: FCC v Mom Craig Webster (Nov 11)
- Re: FCC v Mom Valdis . Kletnieks (Nov 11)
- RE: FCC v Mom Larry Seltzer (Nov 11)
- Re: FCC v Mom Paul Vixie (Nov 11)
- RE: FCC v Mom Larry Seltzer (Nov 12)
- Re: FCC v Mom Florian Weimer (Nov 12)
- Re: FCC v Mom Dude VanWinkle (Nov 12)
- Re: FCC v Mom Richard Cox (Nov 12)
- Re: FCC v Mom Craig Webster (Nov 11)
- Re: FCC v Mom Blue Boar (Nov 11)
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- Re: FCC v Mom Dude VanWinkle (Nov 11)
- Re: FCC v Mom Dude VanWinkle (Nov 11)
- Re: FCC v Mom Jeff Rosowski (Nov 14)
- Re: FCC v Mom Valdis . Kletnieks (Nov 14)
- When do cellphones send out GPS position? Richard M. Smith (Nov 14)
- Re[2]: FCC v Mom Pierre Vandevenne (Nov 14)
- Re: Re[2]: FCC v Mom Dude VanWinkle (Nov 15)
- Re[4]: FCC v Mom Pierre Vandevenne (Nov 15)
- Re[4]: FCC v Mom Drsolly (Nov 15)
- Re: Re[4]: FCC v Mom Barrie Dempster (Nov 15)