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Re: Can someone exlpain this to me?
From: Paul Schmehl <pauls () utdallas edu>
Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2006 12:01:10 -0600
--On February 18, 2006 12:15:24 PM -0500 Dude VanWinkle <dudevanwinkle () gmail com> wrote:
I call bullshit. Osama bin Laden is a multi-millionaire from a wealthy family in Saudi Arabia. Aywan al Zawahiri is a physician from Egypt. Studies have shown that *many* of the jihadis are from the upper middle class and wealthy parts of societies (like Saudi Arabia) that promote Wahabbism, the most virulent form of radical IslamOn 2/18/06, Kevin McAleavey <kevinmca () nsclean com> wrote: I find its not really zealotry that causes these types of conflict, but rather poverty and unhappiness. Zealotry is just a convenient outlet.
Poverty and unhappiness has nothing to do with it. It's all about restoring the Caliphate and the glory of old Islam, when it ruled much of the known world. Their rhetoric *exploits* poverty and unhappiness to encourage acquiescence to their bloody rampages, but those have nothing to do with the underlying causes or with the vast majority of their recruits.
Gee, you know, we've had poor and unhappy people in America for over 250 years and none of them have blown people up and chopped off heads. (McVeigh wasn't poor, so don't even bother.)Solve those and you find people aren't willing to throw away their lives on a whim
People blow other people up because they've bought a line of bullshit that says suicide is glorious, not because they don't have money or are unhappy. Case in point - the Japanese kamakazi pilots.
Paul Schmehl (pauls () utdallas edu) Adjunct Information Security Officer University of Texas at Dallas AVIEN Founding Member http://www.utdallas.edu/ _______________________________________________ Fun and Misc security discussion for OT posts. https://linuxbox.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/funsec Note: funsec is a public and open mailing list.
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- Re: Can someone exlpain this to me? Dude VanWinkle (Feb 18)
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- Re: Can someone exlpain this to me? Dude VanWinkle (Feb 18)
- Re: Can someone exlpain this to me? Paul Schmehl (Feb 18)
- Re: Can someone exlpain this to me? Dude VanWinkle (Feb 18)
- Re: Can someone exlpain this to me? Dude VanWinkle (Feb 18)
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- Re: Can someone exlpain this to me? Dude VanWinkle (Feb 18)
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- Re: Can someone exlpain this to me? Dude VanWinkle (Feb 18)