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Re: Will Amnesty International be taking up the case of DavidCarruthers of BetOnSports?
From: "Dude VanWinkle" <dudevanwinkle () gmail com>
Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2006 16:21:36 -0400
On 7/20/06, Matthew Murphy <mattmurphy () kc rr com> wrote:
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA512 Brian Loe wrote: > Question I have here is: how did this guy break a US law from the UK? > I never understood it with the Panama bullshit and I don't understand > it in this instance... The United States uses a liberal theory of legal jurisdiction -- anytime you do business with people inside the U.S., that business is subject to federal law. Foreign nationals whose business relationships with Americans violate U.S. law are eligible for prosecution just as they would be if their business were done within the physical boundaries of the territory of the United States. California used this same theory of jurisdiction at the state level to regulate all businesses with California customers under its now-infamous breach notification law. The only reason they waited to arrest him until he arrived in the U.S. was because extradition arrangements were not available due to the "shared standard" rule of most extradition treaties. That is, because Mr. Carruthers actions were NOT illegal in his homeland, U.S. extradition treaties could not be applied. IMO, the concern about flight lists being used to identify Carruthers is misplaced. Carruthers would have been obligated to file customs declarations upon arrival in the United States that would have exposed him to identification. An outstanding arrest warrant signed by a federal judge would have been identified at that stage, regardless. That, of course, assumes there wasn't any immigration paperwork filed prior to his arrival -- probably a lofty assumption.
I think we are missing the big picture. This is proof that the powers that be in the US are using the powers that were granted to fight terrorism to catch whoever they feel like I dont know why David Carruthers would be caught by a system that is supposed to monitor terrorists.. -JP<who wonders if Dave was wearing a turban> _______________________________________________ Fun and Misc security discussion for OT posts. https://linuxbox.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/funsec Note: funsec is a public and open mailing list.
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