Re: Canadian revolution

["Brian Loe" <knobdy () gmail com>]

On 10/25/06, Drsolly <drsollyp () drsolly com> wrote:
> People are, basically, good. That's a result of evolution - people who are
> nicer to each other have a better survival rate than people who try to
> kill each other. And so you'll find many, many congregations that are
> good, despite their religion.

In spite of and often because of their religion.
> But some religions start off from the assumption that people are,
> intrinsically, sinful.

This is true for many, especially Christians. However, if you start
off bad, and you're in church, you must want to be a better person.

> That's the start of the wickedness. And then, many
> of the more popular religions believe that people not in their faith are,
> somehow, "doomed" and that it's their duty to show these people the One
> True Path Of Righteousness, and some of them aren't too bothered about the
> means they use.

Yes, I hate it when those damned reformed Mormons knock on my door at
9am Saturdays!

I can only assume, in this day and age, you're talking of Muslims.
What percentage of the Muslim faith do you perceive to be evil?

> You ask specifically about Christianity, so I'll give you examples from
> that superstition.
>
> Read the saga of Dover, and how the religious wackos tried to install
> creationism into education via the back door. Read about all the people
> who believe that the world was created in six days. Read about all the
> people who believe that contraception is a sin, and that condoms are evil.
> Read about all the wackos who believe that homosexuality is an illness, or
> a sin to be punished by stoning. And these are all "modern Christian
> religions" in America.

I'm in America and I appear to be less effected by this than you...go figure.

> Now read about how Christians today torture children accused of witchcraft
> outside America. Different countries, same group of religions.

Well, we'll surely all burn for the sins of them...

> http://www.factnet.org/discus/messages/6/761.html?1052675662
> http://www.geocities.com/Athens/7734/witch1.htm
>
> > ..and its not even all of the Muslims in the middle east! I
> > have not seen it myself but I'm sure there is a Muslim congregation
> > somewhere that has done some good as well.
>
> And in the paragraph above, there's a searing indictment of religion. I'm
> sure that *most* Muslim congregations do mostly good, because people are
> mostly good despite their religion. But if you think that a good Muslim
> congregation is a rarity, then you must believe that the issue is their
> religion, because people are the same all over the world. And so, the
> problem is religion.

I didn't say that a good Muslim congregation is a rarity - I simply
have ZERO experience with ANY Muslims. I can turn on the TV and see
what some evangelical church in Texas has done for some small village
in Africa - not so for a Muslim congregation. Sorry. The news is all
bad, but I don't see the Muslim religion as a bad thing - Malcolm X
converted and suddenly realized he was a racist. Works for me.


> I would love to. But religious nutters think that their imaginary friend
> has given them permission to interfere in my life.

I think its your own self-importance that has placed you in that hell
- and the fact that you give these groups/people power over you that
they are probably unaware of.

Live and let live.
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