RE: Juror Speaks: Teacher in Porn Case

["Randy Abrams" <abrams () eset com>]

The Juror was presented with an "expert witness" by the name of Mark
Lounsbury who either lied or was grossly ignorant and told them that the
evidence proved that Amero physically clicked on the links. The judge
would only allow the defense expert, the only person in the room who was
an expert, to show 2 slides, rather than a live demonstration.

The jurors had a very, very distorted view of the facts. The judge did
her best to prevent a balanced testimony from being entered. The very
slight glimpse the jury had of the truth was but a molecule in the cloud
of false testimony provided by a person the prosecution presented to the
jury as an expert. The jurors almost certainly had never heard of "Jury
Nullification." The jurors were deliberately kept ignorant. You can't
really fault them here.

http://eset.com/threat-center/blog/?p=42  Can a Legal System Unversed in
Technology Result in a Fair Trial?
http://eset.com/threat-center/blog/?p=43  More on the Norwich Witch Hunt
Also, an audio discussion http://www.eset.com/podcasts/index.php
Perverted Justice - The Case of Julie Amero

Cheers,

Randy

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Daniel H. Renner [mailto:dan () losangelescomputerhelp com] 
> Sent: Friday, February 16, 2007 8:05 AM
> To: Randy Abrams
> Cc: eliza; rms () computerbytesman com; funsec () linuxbox org
> Subject: Re: [funsec] Juror Speaks: Teacher in Porn Case
>
> Randy,
>
> While I agree with there being no need to dreg up the jurors 
> details, and with the incompetence of the judge, cop & DA...
>
> The jurors DID have data as noted in Richard M. Smiths article:
>
> "According to the trial transcript, Amero testified that she 
> made every attempt to keep the children from seeing the 
> images. In fact, a number of children at the trial testified 
> that she had attempted to block them from seeing the screen. 
> Also, another substitute teacher testified that Julie had 
> asked for help in the teachers lounge."
>
> "At the trial Amero testified that she didn't, in fact, know 
> how to turn a computer on or off." - hm...
>
> "Actually, the defense expert at the trial testified that the 
> sites visited were from pop-ups."
>
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Daniel H. Renner
> President
> Los Angeles Computerhelp
> A division of Computerhelp, Inc.
> 818-352-8700"
> http://losangelescomputerhelp.com
>
>
>
> Randy Abrams wrote:
> > It not worth anything. It's petty and stupid... Big deal 
> you can find
> > the juror. The juror doesn't make the sentence.
> >
> > The juror can hardly be blamed for an incompetent judge, an 
> even more
> > incompetent cop, and a DA who refuses to uphold his oath to pursue
> > justice.
> >
> > Due to an either corrupt or mid-bogglingly ignorant combination of
> > Judge, Cop (Lounsbury), DA, and even defense attorney the 
> jury had to
> > decide with fabricated information.
> >
> > It's just petty to dig up and post the guy's details here.
> >
> > You degrade yourself.
> >
> > Randy 
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: funsec-bounces () linuxbox org 
> > > [mailto:funsec-bounces () linuxbox org] On Behalf Of eliza
> > > Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2007 10:09 PM
> > > To: dan () losangelescomputerhelp com; rms () computerbytesman com
> > > Cc: funsec () linuxbox org
> > > Subject: Re: [funsec] Juror Speaks: Teacher in Porn Case
> > >
> > > for what it is worth....
> http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/f/o/x/Fred-S-Fox/index.html
> > > On 2/15/07, Daniel H. Renner 
> <dan () losangelescomputerhelp com> wrote:
> > > > People ranting insanely will accuse others of what they 
> themselves 
> > > > have done.  Proof?
> > > >
> > > > Who originated the SBA?
> > > >
> > > > And how many times has that company been in the courts for 
> > > piracy? 35 or so?
> > > > And the RIAA?  How many people have they infected from 
> their little 
> > > > P2P servers while they scream "pirates!"?  (Not that I believe in 
> > > > pirating...)
> > > >
> > > > A quiet township that attacks others in a malicious manner is a 
> > > > township afraid their own faults will be found out.
> > > >
> > > > And yes, 40 years for that "crime" is nothing short of 
> > > malicious and evil.
> > > > Sincerely,
> > > >
> > > > Daniel H. Renner
> > > > President
> > > > Los Angeles Computerhelp
> > > > A division of Computerhelp, Inc.
> > > > 818-352-8700
> > > > http://losangelescomputerhelp.com

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