Re: Juror Speaks: Teacher in Porn Case

["Daniel H. Renner" <dan () losangelescomputerhelp com>]

*gracefully bows to greater knowledge... and shudders*


Sincerely,

Daniel H. Renner
President
Los Angeles Computerhelp
A division of Computerhelp, Inc.
818-352-8700
http://losangelescomputerhelp.com



Randy Abrams wrote:
> The Juror was presented with an "expert witness" by the name of Mark
> Lounsbury who either lied or was grossly ignorant and told them that the
> evidence proved that Amero physically clicked on the links. The judge
> would only allow the defense expert, the only person in the room who was
> an expert, to show 2 slides, rather than a live demonstration.
>
> The jurors had a very, very distorted view of the facts. The judge did
> her best to prevent a balanced testimony from being entered. The very
> slight glimpse the jury had of the truth was but a molecule in the cloud
> of false testimony provided by a person the prosecution presented to the
> jury as an expert. The jurors almost certainly had never heard of "Jury
> Nullification." The jurors were deliberately kept ignorant. You can't
> really fault them here.
>
> http://eset.com/threat-center/blog/?p=42  Can a Legal System Unversed in
> Technology Result in a Fair Trial?
> http://eset.com/threat-center/blog/?p=43  More on the Norwich Witch Hunt
> Also, an audio discussion http://www.eset.com/podcasts/index.php
> Perverted Justice - The Case of Julie Amero
>
> Cheers,
>
> Randy
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Daniel H. Renner [mailto:dan () losangelescomputerhelp com] 
> > Sent: Friday, February 16, 2007 8:05 AM
> > To: Randy Abrams
> > Cc: eliza; rms () computerbytesman com; funsec () linuxbox org
> > Subject: Re: [funsec] Juror Speaks: Teacher in Porn Case
> >
> > Randy,
> >
> > While I agree with there being no need to dreg up the jurors 
> > details, and with the incompetence of the judge, cop & DA...
> >
> > The jurors DID have data as noted in Richard M. Smiths article:
> >
> > "According to the trial transcript, Amero testified that she 
> > made every attempt to keep the children from seeing the 
> > images. In fact, a number of children at the trial testified 
> > that she had attempted to block them from seeing the screen. 
> > Also, another substitute teacher testified that Julie had 
> > asked for help in the teachers lounge."
> >
> > "At the trial Amero testified that she didn't, in fact, know 
> > how to turn a computer on or off." - hm...
> >
> > "Actually, the defense expert at the trial testified that the 
> > sites visited were from pop-ups."
> >
> >
> > Sincerely,
> >
> > Daniel H. Renner
> > President
> > Los Angeles Computerhelp
> > A division of Computerhelp, Inc.
> > 818-352-8700"
> > http://losangelescomputerhelp.com
> >
> >
> >
> > Randy Abrams wrote:
> > > It not worth anything. It's petty and stupid... Big deal 
> > you can find
> > > the juror. The juror doesn't make the sentence.
> > >
> > > The juror can hardly be blamed for an incompetent judge, an 
> > even more
> > > incompetent cop, and a DA who refuses to uphold his oath to pursue
> > > justice.
> > >
> > > Due to an either corrupt or mid-bogglingly ignorant combination of
> > > Judge, Cop (Lounsbury), DA, and even defense attorney the 
> > jury had to
> > > decide with fabricated information.
> > >
> > > It's just petty to dig up and post the guy's details here.
> > >
> > > You degrade yourself.
> > >
> > > Randy 
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: funsec-bounces () linuxbox org 
> > > > [mailto:funsec-bounces () linuxbox org] On Behalf Of eliza
> > > > Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2007 10:09 PM
> > > > To: dan () losangelescomputerhelp com; rms () computerbytesman com
> > > > Cc: funsec () linuxbox org
> > > > Subject: Re: [funsec] Juror Speaks: Teacher in Porn Case
> > > >
> > > > for what it is worth....
> > http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/f/o/x/Fred-S-Fox/index.html
> > > > On 2/15/07, Daniel H. Renner 
> > <dan () losangelescomputerhelp com> wrote:
> > > > > People ranting insanely will accuse others of what they 
> > themselves 
> > > > > have done.  Proof?
> > > > >
> > > > > Who originated the SBA?
> > > > >
> > > > > And how many times has that company been in the courts for 
> > > > piracy? 35 or so?
> > > > > And the RIAA?  How many people have they infected from 
> > their little 
> > > > > P2P servers while they scream "pirates!"?  (Not that I believe in 
> > > > > pirating...)
> > > > >
> > > > > A quiet township that attacks others in a malicious manner is a 
> > > > > township afraid their own faults will be found out.
> > > > >
> > > > > And yes, 40 years for that "crime" is nothing short of 
> > > > malicious and evil.
> > > > > Sincerely,
> > > > >
> > > > > Daniel H. Renner
> > > > > President
> > > > > Los Angeles Computerhelp
> > > > > A division of Computerhelp, Inc.
> > > > > 818-352-8700
> > > > > http://losangelescomputerhelp.com

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