RE: Student arrested over Counter Strike map

["Richard M. Smith" <rms () computerbytesman com>]

Hmm, this chart doesn't seem very useful to me.  If I'm murdered, do I
really care what kind of weapon was used to commit the crime?

The more interesting statistics are the number of murders per 100,000
people.  Does your source have this chart that you can send along?  

The interesting comparison is to then compare gun ownership rates per
100,000 people in states vs. their gun murder rates per 100,000.  I suspect
however that reliable statistics for gun ownership rates are hard to come
by.  Maybe legal gun sales per 100,000 could be a more reliable proxy.

Richard

-----Original Message-----
From: Brian Loe [mailto:knobdy () gmail com] 
Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 2:11 PM
To: rms () computerbytesman com
Cc: FunSec [List]
Subject: Re: [funsec] Student arrested over Counter Strike map

On 5/7/07, rms () computerbytesman com <rms () computerbytesman com> wrote:
> Gun murder rate statistics and other crime statistics broken down by 
> states are available all over the Internet and easily found with Google.

I know where to find the virtually only trustworthy statistics, I just
wanted to see where you got yours.

> In general, the New England states have the lowest gun murder rates in 
> the country.

So long as you only consider DC as a Federal Territory I suppose. In
reality, I think you're being too kind to North East states. Most of those
states are pretty small, which helps, but I wouldn't call them care free:

Bureau of Justice Statistics - Data Online                      
http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs                    
                        
Homicides in 2004                       
                        
State   % Gun   % Knife % Other Weapons
Alabama 64.3    9.6     26.1
Alaska  45.9    10.8    43.2
Arizona 72.4    10.8    16.9
Arkansas        62.7    12.4    24.8
California      72.2    11.8    16.1
Colorado        58.3    16.1    25.6
Connecticut     54      19.5    26.4
Delaware        64.3    21.4    14.3
Georgia 64.5    13.2    22.3
Hawaii  19.4    41.9    38.7
Idaho   56.7    16.7    26.7
Illinois        75.2    8.3     16.5
Indiana 69.6    12.4    18.1
Iowa    47.5    22.5    30
Kansas  60      8       32
Kentucky        62.7    11.5    25.8
Louisiana       79.5    7.9     12.6
Maine   52.9    23.5    23.5
Maryland        74.2    11      14.8
Massachusetts   58.1    22.2    19.8
Michigan        71.5    10.7    17.9
Minnesota       66.4    17.3    16.4
Mississippi     70.9    12.6    16.6
Missouri        68.8    10.5    20.7
Nebraska        63      11.1    25.9
Nevada  64      14      22.1
New Hampshire   30.8    23.1    46.2
New Jersey      58.8    17.9    23.3
New Mexico      50      18      32
New York        57.8    20      22.2
North Carolina  59.5    14      26.4
North Dakota    50      0       50
Ohio    52.7    12.3    35.1
Oklahoma        57      17.2    25.8
Oregon  53.3    20      26.7
Pennsylvania    71      8.5     20.4
Rhode Island    61.5    11.5    26.9
South Carolina  67.7    13.2    19.1
South Dakota    31.3    25      43.8
Tennessee       63.1    13.7    23.1
Texas   64.8    15.5    19.7
Utah    49.1    12.7    38.2
Vermont 18.8    43.8    37.5
Virginia        69.4    11.3    19.3
Washington      56.1    15.3    28.6
West Virginia   50.8    12.7    36.5
Wisconsin       64.5    12.9    22.6
Wyoming 27.3    27.3    45.5
                        
Notes: When data are unavailable, the cells are blank or the year is not
presented.
           Data are presented only for those years in which the estimated
number of homicides from the UCR is available and at least half of those
homicides were reported in the SHR.
                        
                        
Sources: Number of homicides is from the FBI's Uniform Crime Reports (UCR).

              Characteristics of homicides are from the FBI's Supplementary
Homicide Reports (SHR).
                        
Date of download: May 07 2007                   


> (Memo to Michael Moore: some states almost as low as Canada).

Memo to Michael Moore: quit lying - if the truth doesn't support your
beliefs, perhaps you should change your beliefs rather than the facts.

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