RE: Student arrested over Counter Strike map

[Blanchard_Michael () emc com]

 I'm almost positive 99.999% positive that gun dealers have to keep the sales records forever.  If they happen to go 
out of business, they then have to turn those records over to the BATF (turn over to state police?  There's that .001% 
of not sureity)...


Michael P. Blanchard 
Antivirus / Security Engineer, CISSP, GCIH, CCSA-NGX, MCSE
Office of Information Security & Risk Management 
EMC ² Corporation 
4400 Computer Dr. 
Westboro, MA 01580 

-----Original Message-----
From: funsec-bounces () linuxbox org [mailto:funsec-bounces () linuxbox org] On Behalf Of Brian Loe
Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 10:55 AM
To: Richard M. Smith
Cc: FunSec [List]
Subject: Re: [funsec] Student arrested over Counter Strike map

On 5/6/07, Richard M. Smith <rms () computerbytesman com> wrote:
> Yes, it is a pretty sad commentary that a 16-year kid has access to guns.

No its not. Both of my children have easy access to guns - they're in
their closets!

> That's why I was asking the gun company in 2005 if they could trace the
> serial number to see where the gun was originally purchased to try to
> understand if the legit gun distribution system was supplying guns to kids.
> Maybe they have a dirty dealer on their hands.  Do you know if gun makers
> ever do this kind of research?

Gun makers sell to FEDERALLY LICENSED gun dealers - why investigation
can the manufacturers do that wouldn't be covered by the FBI and ATF,
exactly? As for your letter's request, its just silly. The standard
procedure of any crime involving a gun is to trace that gun's life.
Laws dictate when and where serial numbers are added to guns (its a
Class A felony to remove any of them at any time or to be in
possession of a firearm which has had the serial number removed or
altered in any way). Each and every gun can be traced from
manufacturer to dealer. In THEORY, records on buyers are not held
publicly - but dealers are required to maintain their records for
several years. This has been the case for quite some time. If that gun
had a serial number they would know exactly where it came from.

> BTW, in spite of this story, Massachusetts actually has one of the lowest
> gun murder rates in the country.  I suspect this is true because because we
> also have one of the lowest gun ownership rates in the country.

I wouldn't suspect that to be the case at all, but I'd enjoy reviewing
where you got your information.
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