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Re: UK: Drivers may be banned from smoking at the wheel
From: sam stover <sam.stover () gmail com>
Date: Mon, 14 May 2007 13:08:01 -0400
Brian Loe wrote:
I could argue that I may not have the "right" to drink and drive but that wouldn't limit my argument that the government has no "power" to prevent me from doing so. The government's only real role is to exert its power in an effort to enforce contracts, whether those be contracts between states, itself and other governments, or between citizens. One such contract is the social contract I have with my fellow citizens requiring that I don't do them harm. Once I break that contract, the government's power can be brought to bear and a punishment be rendered.
While I agree in principle, it doesn't really work that way in real life. If a cop sees you throwing back a cold one in your car, he most certainly can pull you over and (possibly) arrest you - or at least give you a ticket (caveat: I don't know, and am not arguing *what* he can do to you, just that he *can* do it). I'm not knocking your position - I agree with you more often than I don't. But the fact remains that, in some cases, you don't have to cause anyone harm to get arrested - you just have to demonstrate the capacity and you can be pre-emptively pwnd. -- S.f.Stover http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0x15FFC42A _______________________________________________ Fun and Misc security discussion for OT posts. https://linuxbox.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/funsec Note: funsec is a public and open mailing list.
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- Re: UK: Drivers may be banned from smoking at the wheel, (continued)
- Re: UK: Drivers may be banned from smoking at the wheel Brian Loe (May 14)
- Re: UK: Drivers may be banned from smoking at the wheel Valdis . Kletnieks (May 13)
- Re: UK: Drivers may be banned from smoking at the wheel Brian Loe (May 14)
- Re: UK: Drivers may be banned from smoking at the wheel Valdis . Kletnieks (May 14)
- Re: UK: Drivers may be banned from smoking at the wheel Brian Loe (May 14)
- Re: UK: Drivers may be banned from smoking at the wheel Valdis . Kletnieks (May 14)
- Re: UK: Drivers may be banned from smoking at the wheel Brian Loe (May 14)
- Re: UK: Drivers may be banned from smoking at the wheel Drsolly (May 14)
- Re: UK: Drivers may be banned from smoking at the wheel Brian Loe (May 14)
- Re: UK: Drivers may be banned from smoking at the wheel Drsolly (May 14)
- Re: UK: Drivers may be banned from smoking at the wheel sam stover (May 14)
- Re: UK: Drivers may be banned from smoking at the wheel Brian Loe (May 14)
- Re: UK: Drivers may be banned from smoking at the wheel sam stover (May 14)
- Re: UK: Drivers may be banned from smoking at the wheel Brian Loe (May 14)
- Re: UK: Drivers may be banned from smoking at the wheel Drsolly (May 14)
- Re: UK: Drivers may be banned from smoking at the wheel sam stover (May 14)
- Re: UK: Drivers may be banned from smoking at the wheel Brian Loe (May 14)
- Re: UK: Drivers may be banned from smoking at the wheel Drsolly (May 14)
- Re: UK: Drivers may be banned from smoking at the wheel Brian Loe (May 14)
- Re: UK: Drivers may be banned from smoking at the wheel Drsolly (May 14)
- Re: UK: Drivers may be banned from smoking at the wheel Brian Loe (May 14)