Re: population controls and the Paul Holdren controversy

["Tomas L. Byrnes" <tomb () byrneit net>]

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Paul M. Moriarty [mailto:pmm () igtc com]
> Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2009 11:35 AM
> To: Gadi Evron
> Cc: Tomas L. Byrnes; funsec
> Subject: Re: [funsec] population controls and the Paul Holdren
> controversy
>
>
> On Jul 22, 2009, at 11:17 AM, Gadi Evron wrote:
>
> > Tomas L. Byrnes wrote:
> > > > You can find this very persuasive--b/s--article here:
> > > > http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/07/21/obamas-science-czar-
> > > > considered-forced-abortions-sterilization-population-growth/
> > > >
> > > > I am once again taking notes, this is fascinating and persuasive,
no
> > > > matter how base-less and unsubstantiated.
> > > [TLB:] I think it's perfectly reasonable to out people's prior work,
> > > especially if they haven't' repudiated it.
> > >
> > > A lot of the left have nasty skeletons in their closet, as the basic
> >
> > <snip irrelevant cases>
> >
> > > In this particular case, the purported solutions to climate change
> > > are
> > > merely watered down versions of the same extreme positions taken by
> > > the
> > > Club of Rome.
> >
> > Politics aside, this is a cool b/s article. Whether the guy "did it"
> > or
> > not is irrelevant to this discussion.
> >
> >      Gadi.
>
>
> Welcome to American smear politics and our bullshit media.  It's not
> limited to Fox News and conservatives.  2 words:  Dan Rather
[TLB:] 
And European media are any better? Most European papers are unashamedly
allied with a political party. IE ,the Irish "Independent", owned by
Tony O'Rielly, and his political mouthpiece (after a long allegiance to
Fine Gael, changing to Fianna Fail in the '90s); the Telegraph (often
called the Torygraph), Le Figaro, which is UMP, Le Monde, which is PS;
etc.

If anything, in the US, we only have one mouthpiece for the Republicans:
Fox, whereas all the rest, to include the paid for with tax $ Public
Broadcasting, is various flavors of Democrat.

If you want to get real news, you have to read a variety of sources, all
with a critical eye, and note where there's smoke, there usually is
fire, but not always.

Personally, I read The Economist for analysis, and get my news from
CNBC, the WSJ, Al-Beeb (BBC), Le Figaro, Fox and CNN, and my local
paper's on-line site.


I get my tech news from IEEE journals, SecurityFocus, and ZDNet.

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