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Re: But Facebook are not spammers [was: And Facebook sells user data, too ...]
From: der Mouse <mouse () rodents-montreal org>
Date: Sun, 23 May 2010 09:53:49 -0400 (EDT)
If a person opens their email client -- and you do in fact know them or would not otherwise object to get an email from them -- and they email you, then it is not spam. It may be unsolicited, but it is not spam. Agreed?
Not necessarily. If said person mails me as part of a bulk mailing, it may indeed be spam. (It's relatively unlikely anyone I actually know would do that, but that's not really relevant.)
There's sure no question of it being email or unsolicited, leaving only the "bulk" leg of the UBE tripod in question.It is mail, and it is unsolicited, but it is not bulk.
I'm having trouble seeing how it's not. Substantively identical messages, sent in relatively large quantity, to people as unrelated as me and Paul Vixie? Indeed, in a number of cases, apparently sent to entire scraped address books? (For example, most of the ones I've seen sent to mailing lists.) Also notable (in that it vitiates your casting of them as just a somewhat unusual webmailer) is that I can't think of a case in which I had any clue who the nominally provoking person - the name Facebook sticks in the From: - was. Of the three examples I find in my incoming mail that hasn't yet rolled off the end of my historical records, two were sent to mailing lists I'm on and the third was sent to my NetBSD address; in none of these cases do I recognize the name in the From:. /~\ The ASCII Mouse \ / Ribbon Campaign X Against HTML mouse () rodents-montreal org / \ Email! 7D C8 61 52 5D E7 2D 39 4E F1 31 3E E8 B3 27 4B _______________________________________________ Fun and Misc security discussion for OT posts. https://linuxbox.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/funsec Note: funsec is a public and open mailing list.
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- But Facebook are not spammers [was: And Facebook sells user data, too ...] Gadi Evron (May 21)
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- Re: But Facebook are not spammers Gadi Evron (May 23)
- Re: But Facebook are not spammers der Mouse (May 23)
- Re: And Facebook sells user data, too ... Rich Kulawiec (May 21)
- Re: But Facebook are not spammers Justin Scott (May 23)
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