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Re: I'll believe corporations are people when they let them drive in the HOV lane ...
From: "Blanchard, Michael (InfoSec)" <michael.blanchard () emc com>
Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2013 17:06:44 +0000
I am FULLY in favor of starting over…. I say there are a couple things that should happen to “reboot” the government if you will… 1) Get rid of Democrat and Republican (and ALL others) labels… a. This will ensure that people voting will have to listen to the actual issues the candidate stands for b. If a candidate uses the term Dem or Rep AT ALL they forfeit the race… Zero use of those labels can be used, even if it’s “former Democrat” or “former republican”, not allowed at all, you loose if you use… period! c. Lets face it Romney was 100% correct. 47% of folks will vote for Democrat and 47% will vote for Republican, JUST because of those two words acssociated with the candidate…. Oh shock! The people voting will actually have to think for themselves!!!! d. Primary election would consist of everyone whom wants to run for office. We put the TWO candidates with the most votes into the general election e. General election will decide the president (or whatever office) f. No more electoral college 2) This is is *very* important…. FIRE the whole lot of them…. Everyone that holds an office right now is fired, period. I’d say at a rep/congressman/gov/president level at least. a. You CANNOT run for office in this first election, so there’ll be ZERO incumbants running… b. You WILL be able to run for office next term if you desire. With those 2 steps, we’ll be able to get full fresh blood into all the offices, AND the people of these United States will actually have to pay attention to the candidates. I think it’s good for a start at least…. Maybe a bit of refinement could be done, but on it’s basics, it’s pretty simple and will work…. Michael P. Blanchard Senior Security Engineer, CISSP, GCIH, CCSA-NGX, MCSE Cyber Security Services EMC ² Corporation 32 Coslin Drive Southboro, MA 01772 From: funsec-bounces () linuxbox org [mailto:funsec-bounces () linuxbox org] On Behalf Of Stephanie Daugherty Sent: Monday, February 04, 2013 6:29 PM To: Jeffrey Walton Cc: funsec () linuxbox org Subject: Re: [funsec] I'll believe corporations are people when they let them drive in the HOV lane ... I've seen calls for direct democracy as a replacement for representative government. There is a serious danger in that, and that is tyranny of a majority. Look at Uganda's recent "kill the gays" bill - can we really be sure that even something as malicious as that couldn't pass here with Faux News cheerleading it on? Whatever may take the place of congress in the future, we do have to be mindful of the "dark side" of democracy - I mean, even in our own history we once thought slavery and alcohol prohibition were good ideas... On Mon, Feb 4, 2013 at 5:52 PM, Jeffrey Walton <noloader () gmail com<mailto:noloader () gmail com>> wrote: On Mon, Feb 4, 2013 at 5:46 PM, Dan White <dwhite () olp net<mailto:dwhite () olp net>> wrote:
On 02/04/13 17:10 -0500, Jeffrey Walton wrote: ...Don't be hesitant of starting over. Creationist should appreciate the biblical theme - nearly all ancient societies talk about the great flood. Chrisitianity turned it into Noah and the Ark. It should appeal to Evolutionist too. The fall of the dinosaurs led to the rise of the mamals. Starting over at times is righteous and natural.Starting over, without fixing the processes that got us here is just going to lead to the same result. Rapid incremental change (to legal code) is what's going to make the difference, but that's going to require a change in how representational government works - as in cutting the representatives out.
Funny you should bring that up :) I was not sure if I was being naive or optomisitic (when I question myself). Here, I hope the new group who would take their place would have fortitude, courage, and some sense of equity, morals and justice; and they would not travel in the same sewers. Jeff _______________________________________________ Fun and Misc security discussion for OT posts. https://linuxbox.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/funsec Note: funsec is a public and open mailing list.
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- Re: I'll believe corporations are people when they let them drive in the HOV lane ... Dan White (Feb 05)
- Re: I'll believe corporations are people when they let them drive in the HOV lane ... Valdis . Kletnieks (Feb 05)
- Re: I'll believe corporations are people when they let them drive in the HOV lane ... Dan White (Feb 05)
- Re: I'll believe corporations are people when they let them drive in the HOV lane ... Valdis . Kletnieks (Feb 05)
- Re: I'll believe corporations are people when they let them drive in the HOV lane ... John Bambenek (Feb 05)
- Re: I'll believe corporations are people when they let them drive in the HOV lane ... Paul Ferguson (Feb 05)
- Re: I'll believe corporations are people when they let them drive in the HOV lane ... John Bambenek (Feb 05)
- Re: I'll believe corporations are people when they let them drive in the HOV lane ... Paul Ferguson (Feb 05)
- Re: I'll believe corporations are people when they let them drive in the HOV lane ... John Bambenek (Feb 05)
- Re: I'll believe corporations are people when they let them drive in the HOV lane ... Blanchard, Michael (InfoSec) (Feb 05)
- Re: I'll believe corporations are people when they let them drive in the HOV lane ... Blanchard, Michael (InfoSec) (Feb 05)
- Re: I'll believe corporations are people when they let them drive in the HOV lane ... Dan White (Feb 05)
- Re: I'll believe corporations are people when they let them drive in the HOV lane ... Conrad Constantine (Feb 05)
- Re: I'll believe corporations are people when they let them drive in the HOV lane ... Paul Ferguson (Feb 05)
- Re: I'll believe corporations are people when they let them drive in the HOV lane ... Conrad Constantine (Feb 05)
- Re: I'll believe corporations are people when they let them drive in the HOV lane ... John Bambenek (Feb 05)
- Re: I'll believe corporations are people when they let them drive in the HOV lane ... John Bambenek (Feb 05)
- Re: I'll believe corporations are people when they let them drive in the HOV lane ... Blanchard, Michael (InfoSec) (Feb 05)
- Re: I'll believe corporations are people when they let them drive in the HOV lane ... Valdis . Kletnieks (Feb 05)
- Re: I'll believe corporations are people when they let them drive in the HOV lane ... Jeffrey Walton (Feb 05)
- Re: I'll believe corporations are people when they let them drive in the HOV lane ... Blanchard, Michael (InfoSec) (Feb 05)