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RE: Postage Is Due for Companies Sending E-Mail


From: "Ryan Counts" <rcounts () parkplacetexas com>
Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2006 18:05:49 -0600

I can't wait to receive my first NDR due to insufficient postage...  I'm
a little curious about a few aspects of this : 

1) What happens if a machine on your network gets botted?  Is your
company responsible for the postage of all these emails?

2) I'm guessing auditing this in any way - to verify they are billing
you correctly for example - could get a little cumbersome.

3) What about personal emails from a company's employees to members of
AOL?  You mean I gotta pay for my people to send jokes to their
ex-girlfriend's sister-in-law's roommate?

3) Is it just me, or does it seem that the ultimate result of this will
be improved virii?  Most of the spam I receive today seems to be from
infected machines, which are sending emails that from a technical
standpoint can look completely legit and trace back only to the infected
machine. From that perspective, it seems that this is only going to
increase financial burdens on small companies that can't afford good
workstation security.  Hmmmm, maybe they could file a class-action
against Microsoft for security holes...  As it is, right now the biggest
problem in filtering spam is verifying the source, so how does this help
that in any way?

4) Maybe we should follow campaign election laws and force all emails to
have a video attachment of the sender saying, "I am so and so, and I
approve of this message," while also holding a credit card up to the
camera...  




-----Original Message-----
From: funsec-bounces () linuxbox org [mailto:funsec-bounces () linuxbox org]
On Behalf Of Drsolly
Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2006 2:29 PM
To: Stephen J. Smoogen
Cc: FunSec [List]
Subject: Re: [funsec] Postage Is Due for Companies Sending E-Mail

On Tue, 7 Feb 2006, Stephen J. Smoogen wrote:

On 2/6/06, Drsolly <drsollyp () drsolly com> wrote:
On Mon, 6 Feb 2006, Rob, grandpa of Ryan, Trevor, Devon & Hannah
wrote:


All email is equal, but some email is more equal than others ...

Nothing wrong with that. In England, we have First Class Post and
Second
Class Post. We also have a Bulk post rate, and a bulk sorted post
rate,
and oodles of others.

This is a step twoards the system I've been advocating. An economics
solution to an economics problem.


I am sorry but I am having to return this email COD. It did not
sufficiently entertain me. Please pay in pounds stirling the cost of
sending this bulk shipment to you.
 
Please put your invoice for the above in the post and I will pass it to
our accounts department for appropriate treatment.

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