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RE: turn in your knives!


From: Alex Eckelberry <AlexE () sunbelt-software com>
Date: Wed, 24 May 2006 15:29:37 -0400

I agree, it's an absolutely horrible idea.

I used to be on the fence on guns and the like.  After all, I grew up in a socialist country (Denmark) and was raised 
in a very anti-gun environment. 

But after living through several really bad natural disasters and living right in the middle of the LA riots, I can 
tell you one thing:  When the shit hits the fan, there is no one around to protect you and your family but yourself.  
While the whimps whimpered and moaned, glued to their TV sets in horror, a few people were stuck in the middle of the 
damned thing and we were quite unhappy about it (one day I'll post the video footage I took of the riots). 

Democracies and civilizations are illusory, fragile things.  I've seen them upset at the drop of a hat.  Katrina was a 
microcosmic example of what a Bad Idea it is to rely on our own government for protection.  

I own guns now and am quite happy about it.  I even have a permit to carry.  And I really do understand now all that 
Founding Father stuff about a well-armed citizenry is the best protection against a bad government, as well as foreign 
invaders and the like. 

Alex


-----Original Message-----
From: funsec-bounces () linuxbox org [mailto:funsec-bounces () linuxbox org] On Behalf Of Blanchard_Michael () emc com
Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 2:24 PM
To: knobdy () gmail com; funsec () linuxbox org
Subject: RE: [funsec] turn in your knives!

 
Oh come on now.... This is ridiculous....

  I don't have time to check out the new law right now, but are they expecting chef's knives, steak knives and butter 
knives to be turned in along with Machetes, swords, etc as well?  

  What in the world are you going to spread Marmite with now?   Well, as a young child I used to use a spoon to spread 
jam on my toast, I suppose a spoon could be used to spread butter and Marmite with as well....

  I'm waiting for the next "amnesty program"  "turn in your pointed sticks now!"   then it will be "turn in your 
un-ripened bananas now!"  What after that?  "turn in your fists now!"  "turn in your stones, your dirt, your salt, your 
pepper, ugh.... Unbelievable....

  Does anyone actually think this is a GOOD thing to do?

 Mike B

Michael P. Blanchard
Antivirus / Security Engineer, CISSP, GCIH, CCSA-NGX, MCSE Office of Information Security & Risk Management EMC ² 
Corporation 4400 Computer Dr. 
Westboro, MA 01580 


-----Original Message-----
From: funsec-bounces () linuxbox org [mailto:funsec-bounces () linuxbox org] On Behalf Of Brian Loe
Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 2:04 PM
To: FunSec LList
Subject: [funsec] turn in your knives!

Not sure what you'll cut your food with, but do it anyway. Question is, why an "increasing menace of knife crime"?!

http://www.homeoffice.gov.uk/about-us/news/knife-amnesty
Turn in your knives to police

24 May 2006

A clear cut message from the knife amnesty - hand your knife in to the police now.

The first national knife amnesty for over 10 years begins today as people in England, Wales and Northern Ireland are 
encouraged to hand over their knives to their local police.

From 24 May and 30 June, you will be able to hand in any knife to your
local police force and not face any further action. Every knife handed in will be a knife that then can't be used in 
crime.

The programme will be similar to the firearms amnesty held three years ago in which 44,000 weapons were voluntarily 
handed in to police.
Knife crime menace

Every police force in England and Wales will take part in the National Knife Amnesty, with Scotland organising its own 
amnesty. The amnesty is part of a wider government crackdown to tackle the increasing menace of knife crime.

Home Office Minister Vernon Coaker said, "The message of this campaign is simple - if you think you're protecting 
yourself by carrying a knife, you're not. Too many people think that carrying a knife will make them safer but the 
reality is quite the opposite as they run the real risk of having the knife turned back on them."

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