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Re: [privacy] U.S. Government to Ask Courts to Toss Phone
From: Drsolly <drsollyp () drsolly com>
Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2006 22:00:39 +0100 (BST)
On Mon, 12 Jun 2006, Lindsey, Ben J wrote:
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Folks, I gotta ask a quick (ok, long) question for you folks, there is just something I guess I don't quite get. Please don't think I'm being adversarial - I'm just confused, perhaps even ignorant. Here goes: When it comes to tapping international phone calls that the "government" (whoever that may be) feels are made to/from possible terrorists, I have to admit this doesn't particularly bother me. I consider that it's a time of war and if it ever puts me out in some manner, it's the least I can do.
I question whether we're at war. In a rhetorical sense (the war on drugs, the war on poverty), then I can see it. But in the sense of armed conflict? I'm very much reminded by the war between Eurasia (them) and Oceania (us) with the personification of the enemy in Goldstein (bin Laden). This war will, of course last for ever (I refer to Orwell's war, of course, or do I?) and is used to justify ever-increasing suppression of the people of Oceania (and Airstrip One in particular). Korea - now that was a war, even though we called it a "police action". What we're in now, is a police action, even though it's being called a "war", a fine example of newspeak. _______________________________________________ privacy mailing list privacy () whitestar linuxbox org http://www.whitestar.linuxbox.org/mailman/listinfo/privacy
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- Re: [privacy] U.S. Government to Ask Courts to Toss Phone Lindsey, Ben J (Jun 12)
- Re: [privacy] U.S. Government to Ask Courts to Toss Phone coderman (Jun 12)
- Re: [privacy] U.S. Government to Ask Courts to Toss Phone Brian Loe (Jun 12)
- Re: [privacy] U.S. Government to Ask Courts to Toss Phone coderman (Jun 12)
- Re: [privacy] U.S. Government to Ask Courts to Toss Phone Brian Loe (Jun 12)
- Re: [privacy] U.S. Government to Ask Courts to Toss Phone Drsolly (Jun 12)
- Re: [privacy] U.S. Government to Ask Courts to Toss Phone Brian Loe (Jun 13)
- Re: [privacy] U.S. Government to Ask Courts to Toss Phone coderman (Jun 12)
- Re: [privacy] U.S. Government to Ask Courts to Toss Phone Brian Loe (Jun 13)
- Re: [privacy] U.S. Government to Ask Courts to Toss Phone Brian Loe (Jun 12)
- Re: [privacy] U.S. Government to Ask Courts to Toss Phone coderman (Jun 12)
- Re: [privacy] U.S. Government to Ask Courts to Toss Phone coderman (Jun 12)
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- Re: [privacy] U.S. Government to Ask Courts to Toss Phone Henderson, Dennis K. (Jun 12)
- Re: [privacy] U.S. Government to Ask Courts to Toss Phone Drsolly (Jun 12)
- Re: [privacy] U.S. Government to Ask Courts to Toss Phone Brian Loe (Jun 13)
- Re: [privacy] U.S. Government to Ask Courts to Toss Phone der Mouse (Jun 24)
- Re: [privacy] U.S. Government to Ask Courts to Toss Phone Drsolly (Jun 12)
- Re: [privacy] U.S. Government to Ask Courts to Toss Phone Lindsey, Ben J (Jun 13)
- Re: [privacy] U.S. Government to Ask Courts to Toss Phone Fergie (Jun 24)