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Re: Student arrested over Counter Strike map


From: "Brian Loe" <knobdy () gmail com>
Date: Fri, 4 May 2007 18:11:49 -0500

On 5/4/07, John Forrister <John () segfault com> wrote:

<SNIP>
The same is true of a hammer, a fork, or a pen.


You had me going for a minute...

Now, on to airplanes specifically:

Regardless of the intent of the person with a given object, there are a
lot of legitimate reasons to ban explosives, firearms, pepper spray, etc
from airplanes (and, in some cases, the public at large).

This is buying into exactly what may be to blame for all of those kids
getting killed at VT. Its the difference between the kids who had
opportunity to act and the old Holocaust survivor who acted - and gave
his life. While its obvious to anyone with a brain why explosives
provide no benefit to anything good on a plane, I - and I'm sure
millions of others - are absolutely lost looking for a reason not to
allow people carry firearms, pepper spray, knives, lighters, or a
bottle of water onto an airplane.

Some of them
have to do with malicious people.  Others are simply safety concerns -
the discharge of a firearm, whether intentional or accidental, on an
airplane can have immediate, disastrous consequences for all involved.

How so? You don't actually believe the Hollywood shtick that a simple
bullet will tear out a massive hole in the fuselage of a plane do you?

 Same for a can of pepper spray, or the rupture
and ignition of an oxygen cylinder required by a passenger for medical
reasons.

Yep, you watch too much television.


On another note, it's interesting (and kind of sad) that if he'd offered
to sell the map for the game as a 'Training Simulation' to the local
SWAT team instead of just playing it and owning a hammer, he could
probably have made a bundle of money for his efforts, and not be in
trouble right now.

Name a single instance where the SWAT team entered a school before the
killer had already finished killing his victims and himself? SWAT,
police and sheriff departments have little use for such training tools
- they simply need the forms to fill out and a pen, that's what they
do in these situations...count the bodies, tell the parents. Not a job
I would want for sure.
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