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RE: UK: Drivers may be banned from smoking at the wheel
From: "Richard M. Smith" <rms () computerbytesman com>
Date: Mon, 14 May 2007 20:40:13 -0400
Another important point: Roads belong to governments, so they get to make the rules. If someone wants to drive drunk in an unsafe car with no headlights at 100 MPH and not get arrested, then they should drive around on their own 100-acre farm. Andy and Brian seem to missing a really basic issue: that public highways and streets don't belong to them. Richard -----Original Message----- From: funsec-bounces () linuxbox org [mailto:funsec-bounces () linuxbox org] On Behalf Of Drsolly Sent: Monday, May 14, 2007 8:15 PM To: Andy Sutton Cc: funsec Subject: Re: [funsec] UK: Drivers may be banned from smoking at the wheel On Mon, 14 May 2007, Andy Sutton wrote:
On Mon, 2007-05-14 at 23:07 +0100, Drsolly wrote:The point isn't to protect people from their own folly, it's to protect me from someone else's folly.It's an common conceit to think that law equals protection. At best it increases the consequences column, but never perfectly nor always in predicted ways. People will still drink, drive, and jump the median.
Yes, but wouldn't it be nice if people were discouraged from driving while out of their moinds on booze? I'm not after perfect safety, I just want things to be a bit better than they would be with millions of boozed-up idiots not controlling a ton or two of car. _______________________________________________ Fun and Misc security discussion for OT posts. https://linuxbox.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/funsec Note: funsec is a public and open mailing list. _______________________________________________ Fun and Misc security discussion for OT posts. https://linuxbox.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/funsec Note: funsec is a public and open mailing list.
Current thread:
- Re: UK: Drivers may be banned from smoking at the wheel, (continued)
- Re: UK: Drivers may be banned from smoking at the wheel Brian Loe (May 14)
- Re: UK: Drivers may be banned from smoking at the wheel Drsolly (May 14)
- Re: UK: Drivers may be banned from smoking at the wheel Brian Loe (May 14)
- Re: UK: Drivers may be banned from smoking at the wheel Drsolly (May 14)
- Re: UK: Drivers may be banned from smoking at the wheel Andy Sutton (May 14)
- Re: UK: Drivers may be banned from smoking at the wheel Drsolly (May 14)
- Re: UK: Drivers may be banned from smoking at the wheel Andy Sutton (May 14)
- Re: UK: Drivers may be banned from smoking at the wheel Drsolly (May 14)
- Re: UK: Drivers may be banned from smoking at the wheel Andy Sutton (May 14)
- Re: UK: Drivers may be banned from smoking at the wheel Drsolly (May 14)
- RE: UK: Drivers may be banned from smoking at the wheel Richard M. Smith (May 14)
- Re: UK: Drivers may be banned from smoking at the wheel Brian Loe (May 15)
- Re: UK: Drivers may be banned from smoking at the wheel Nick FitzGerald (May 14)
- Re: UK: Drivers may be banned from smoking at the wheel Drsolly (May 14)
- Re: UK: Drivers may be banned from smoking at the wheel Nick FitzGerald (May 14)
- Re: UK: Drivers may be banned from smoking at the wheel Drsolly (May 15)
- RE: UK: Drivers may be banned from smoking at the wheel David Harley (May 15)
- RE: UK: Drivers may be banned from smoking at the wheel Drsolly (May 15)
- RE: UK: Drivers may be banned from smoking at the wheel David Harley (May 15)
- RE: UK: Drivers may be banned from smoking at the wheel Drsolly (May 15)
- Re: UK: Drivers may be banned from smoking at the wheel Brian Loe (May 15)